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Then just refer to the Biblical passages that were quoted. You and  your friend are so full of it. It is so evident that you have an agenda against Islam. I have provided Quranic passages, Biblical passages, links, yet all you do is deny what they say. Concubines existed and were acknowledged in the Bible and the Quran. They were never explicitly prohibited but concubinage was regulated. [b]Eventually Islam eradicated it.[/b] Thats the whole story.

You know, if I had serious issues with Christianity, I would seek out Christian scholars and priests and ask them for clarification. You have never done that and I expect you to never do so, because your objective isn't to seek clarification; its to vilify the whole religion.

God help you, girl. [/quote]
Islam didn't eventually eradicate it. The abolition of Ottoman slavery came under serious pressure from the European authorities who were also guilty as sin with their slave trade. The first decree of the Ottoman Sultan banning slavery came in 1830, and that was to free WHITE slaves.

If your argument is that it should take 12 centuries to eradicate something...well...didn't need a revelation for that.[/quote]

[b]Yes, but remember you said you don't put much relevance in what Muslim people DO, you said you like to see scriptural evidence. I believe you told Jeff that. So why now are you using what Muslim people do as authority to support your claim. Dodging target again. The Ottoman ruling existence was hardly a role model of good Islamic behavior as they even sold their own children, sold their young boys to be used for sex in bathhouses, etc..No wonder you want to use it to support your claim. Pfft.[/b][/quote]

Actually, the Ottoman ruling was bad in some ways, and good in some ways. Their treatment of religious minorities, for instance, was quite good.

Your argument was that Islam has "eventually eradicated slavery."  The revelation of Islam occurred within a very short period of time. The word "eventually" implies something that happens over time.  As such, eradication of slavery depended on Muslims, not on Islam, because the revelation (what you call revelation) was time-bound and the new verses didn't keep appearing throughout centuries. If you want to say that Islam tried to put conditions in place that were intended to eventually eradicate slavery, well, that's at least a somewhat valid argument, but I think we can all agree that Islam's efforts in this regard were not supported by Muslims, and instead of eradicating it, it has instead institutionalized slavery - slavery that was very different from what Europeans practiced but slavery nevertheless - and it took over 10 centuries to be done with it.  [/quote]

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