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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can I just say that this thread has reached 8 pages and nobody's trashed anybody else's school yet (I think -- I skimmed some pages)? Plus somebody's posted some actually helpful links on college admissions on another thread on this forum, instead of making it up and posting it as gospel. I'm amazed! I'm hoping that all those horrid people who talk about colleges on the private school forum don't find this new college forum. Way to go, friends! [/quote] Let me echo the sentiment of this poster, and suggest that the posters squabbling about Smith please take the fight elsewhere and not pollute this very useful communication.[/quote] Actually, you're quoting my post about the 8 pages where nobody's trashing anybody else's school! I'm sorry this other post is disillusioned, but I'm concerned that she's spreading some exaggerations. There may be a nugget of truth, but show me the college faculty that doesn't have its full measure of discontents. (And ouch, now the rest of Smith's faculty can read here what her faculty friends have been telling her confidentially?) I wasn't in Sessions, I was in Lamont. I've been back within the last five years and didn't see what she saw, and in particular I didn't see any dental dams. Maybe I wasn't looking for them, but still.... Also, the NY Times article about recruiting in the Middle East just reflects what a lot of Ivies are already doing. You can read about it in Daniel Goldin's Price of Admission -- a lot of schools are upping their diversity statistics by recruiting rich Middle Easterners who can pay full freight. Pretty cynical, I admit, and I can understand why nobody mentions it in the NY Times article. I still don't get, and it doesn't say anywhere in the NY Times article you linked to, how recruiting 20-30 women who speak Arabic as a first language, among an entry class of 700-so women, would boost Smith's reading and essay SAT scores. The whole thing just doesn't hold together. So yes, let's end this discussion. [/quote] Lamont was the lesbian house 25 years ago? Really? Interesting. It wasn't when I got there. The most well known lesbian house has always been Sessions. I did see something that made me think that perhaps Lamont had become a bit that way also, in recent years, but I didn't see it then. There certainly may be some faculty discontents at Smith, but Z & R are not amongst them. They love Smith. They agreed with most of what Reverend Wright said. They had a huge Barack Obama sign in front of their house and campaigned for him in Vermont. They love Sessions house, and all that it is about. They hardly have an agenda against Smith. But they're realists. You can disagree, but trying to insinuate that they would say that Smith has experienced an academic decline in the past 20 years because they have an ax to grind with Smith. An admissions rate of over 40% is not good at all, particularly in light of the fact that they have been putting such an effort into recruiting more applicants from abroad. Their rankings have fallen. You may not like my explanation for these facts. Fine. Let's hear yours. Or not. The dental dams were posted in a very large manilla envelope in Washburn House. Which is a dump that they haven't bothered to renovate in 20+ years. That's where they put the alum they sought donations from. Not very smart.[/quote]
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