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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Arabs had a country in1948 and decided to wage war on Israel.  Had they lived in peace with Israel when they had their Palestine, there would not be the problem we face today.  The Arabs had Palestine and gave it up due to their greed.[/quote]

Check on old map - the WHOLE country was Palestine.  Israel did not exist until after WWII.  It did not exist until we made it so.

So, then should we give a country to the African Americans in the US because they were slaves?  You know, maybe kick everybody out of Cameroon and give it to them (if they'd want it, probably not)? Isn't west africa the homeland for a lot of African Americans, so it's like theirs anyway?  I mean come on - this line of thinking is really freaking absurd.  I cannot think of anyplace other than the US itself where people came and just kicked the indigenous people the hell out (like we did to the native americans, and then gave them a few scraps/reservations).  By force.
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Do you seriously not understand that that is how countries are formed? Like, all over the world?[/quote]
Really? :shock: in the 21st century this is how countries are formed??? I thought we were out of the stone age and barbaric era, silly me!!!!!! I guess the Geneva convention and International Law that the MODERN world has doesn't mean anything. Who knew????  :shock: [/quote]

Yes, take a look at history. Modern history. Things change. Read below but be careful, there's so much change it might make you seasick.

"The British pulled out of India in 1947, leaving behind two new countries of India and Pakistan. Burma, Sri Lanka and Malaysia followed the road of independence not long after. The Dutch fought a losing war but finally conceded independence to Indonesia, the former Dutch East Indies, in 1949. France tried to regain its colonies in Indochina but was forced out in 1954 after a humiliating defeat at the hands of Vietnamese forces. The Europeans' African empires crumbled in the 1950s and early 1960s. The United Nations grew from 51 nations in 1945 to 189 by the end of the century.

Because of the cold war, there was no comprehensive peace settlement after the second world war as there had been in 1919. Instead there were a number of separate agreements or ad hoc decisions. In Europe most of the borders that had been established at the end of the first world war were restored.

The Soviet Union seized back some bits of territory such as Bessarabia, which it had lost to Romania in 1919. The one major exception was Poland, as the joke had it "a country on wheels", which moved some 200 miles to the west, losing some 69,000 sq metres to the Soviet Union and gaining slightly less from Germany in the west. In the east, Japan of course lost the conquests it had made since 1931, but was also obliged to disgorge Korea and Formosa (now Taiwan) and the Pacific islands that it had gained decades earlier. Eventually the United States and Japan concluded a formal peace in 1951. Because of an outstanding dispute over some islands, the Soviet Union and its successor Russia have not yet signed a peace treaty ending the war with Japan."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/second-world-war-rebuilding[/quote]

These examples aren't helping your point.[/quote]

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