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[b]I am tired of seeing teachers (or whoever you are) say things like "you can't criticize the schools/curriculm, because you're not a teacher".[/b]  That's ridiculous.  We can judge outcomes, and teaching is not that complicated.  If you saw a doctor who had bad outcomes over and over again, you would certainly draw conclusions about that.  If you saw a plumber getting worse results using a new technique, you would question that new technique.  
I have no opinion about group work *generally*, though I certainly have seen it used as a way to occupy kids' time while not actually teaching them anything.  But this notion that parents shouldn't question or criticize because we aren't the "experts" is ridiculous.[/quote]

Luckily nobody has said that here.

And yes, teaching actually is that complicated. Please read the linked piece on math education. Or this piece:

http://www.veanea.org/home/2254.htm

What's more, people would never say, "I've used indoor plumbing all my life. I know all about plumbing. What's so complicated about plumbing?" Or "My electrician said that I needed a bigger circuit breaker panel, but I know that's ridiculous, because I've turned light bulbs on and off for decades." But somehow, if you've spent enough years in school, you think you know all about teaching.

Further, one of the questions is whether the educational outcomes actually are worse with the new curriculum. And I don't think parent complaints constitute proof of worse educational outcomes.[/quote]

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