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C'mom, nobody's going to feed a troll that easily. We all know you're itching for a cue to start in with the comparisons to Santa and fairies at the bottom of the garden. However, if we weren't convinced you're a troll, we could suggest better responses. For example, a good response would be to compare biblical sources compared to the Brothers Grimm, who we know for sure are modern story tellers.

But the fundamental question is, why are you so rude in the first place? Why not make an intelligent and thoughtful challenge to religion? There are many possible challenges to religion that are intelligent and thoughtful. But apparently you're too lazy to do any actual thinking, beyond cheap insults.

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Could you give an example of an intelligent and thoughtful challenge to religion?[/quote]

Sure. Here's just one. Ask why a loving God would allow one people to massacre another. (But not on this thread, because, really. Start your own thread.)

Then, actually listen to the answer. I suspect that for you, listening is going to be even harder than cutting and pasting the question above.[/quote]

Free will, right?[/quote]

God urges people to love each other and gives them the free will to massacre each other.  What's a god to do, if his creation prefers massacre over love?[/quote]

Send his son with a powerful message. [/quote]

2,000 years later and people are still massacring each other.  Maybe time to send another son? or try something more specific and less bloody?[/quote]

Maybe. Atheism hasn't owrked in that regard either, obviously.

Not sure what you mean by "less bloody" because his son's message was anti-bloodshed in the extreme. Also, not sure what you mean by "less specific" but personally I would hate to move to a system where there are multiple specific rules that need to be enforced by a government.[/quote]

Atheism is not a belief system -- it only mean lack of theism.

Regarding bloody, I was referring to the terrible bloody death of Jesus himself and how his father set him up for that, with shedding his blood for us as the only way to save humans from everlasting damnation.  Then there's all the blood that has been shed since then in the name of Christianity --- the Crusades, for instance.   I know there have been wars declared by countries that are not religious, but they do it to satisfy their earthly desire for power.  The Crusades were fought for the glory of God, to take the holy land from the infidels.

Regarding "more specific," I meant a message that more people would understand better and know how to react to properly.  People seem to have many different interpretations of what God wants and expects from us.  [/quote]

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