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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow, I am the Jewish being called "asshole," "jerk," "dense" and "stupid idiot."

If you think this is a way to promote interfaith discussion, you are wrong. 8:09 and 8:12 -- are you the same poster? I think you need anger management class.

I never once said anything anti-Christian in my posts, I was simply trying to help you understand why some Jews might be offended by a Christian seder. Not sure why that is "insulting" to Christians.

Your unwillingness to even acknowledge that Jews might be be legitimately uncomfortable with this speaks volumes.

FWIW -- a brief survey of my Jewish friends ALL agreed with me. They also said I was nuts trying to convince strangers on DCUM that Jews have a right to feel this way.[/quote]

No, I get why some might be uncomfortable - it's[b] call ignorance, as in not knowing anything about it.  We've tried to explain[/b] but you still insist on being upset, ignoring those explanations, and deliberately misconstruing the intent.  Now you are being disingenuous on top of it.  THAT is what people are taking exception to.  You are basically upset over semantics - a pretty thin reason to be as offended as you are, by almost any standard.[/quote]

Nobody tried to explain. I'm the PP who asked, out of ignorance, if the christian-hosted seders were modern or more symbolic recreations of the last supper, and my throat was jumped down for asking. I didn't get an answer. I can imagine respectful and disrespectful ways to hold christian observations of passover rituals and I'm sure both take place in practice, no matter the symbolic intent.[/quote]

Oh, so you 're 20:52, who innocently asked whether we kill a lamb and eat it that day, and mocked the idea of us speaking Hebrew or using pronouns like "we". PP is right, you're incredibly disingenuous if you expected a thoughtful reply to such a nasty post.[/quote]

Or they could be 19:31.  It's hard to tell, but it could have been an honest question.[/quote]

Yep. I was 19:31, not 20:52. And THANK YOU to 10:14 who finally answered what I thought was a simple question but which got so thoroughly misunderstood.  Sheesh!

I don't know much about UU but if they really do have rules for respectfully learning about and engaging in other's traditions it sounds like something Jews and Christians of all stripes could learn from, starting with this thread.  As I said in what's quoted above, I can imagine a variety of ways to hold a christ-focused observation of passover.   The devil, so to speak, is in the details of why and how it's being done. Just because the good folks on this board can't imagine themselves doing it disrespectfully doesn't mean all such observations are necessarily respectful.  Hence OP's post which can be understood as "what is really going on here? it gives me an uncomfortable feeling."  Yes, she said "icky." Too bad that so many people chose to be offended by that instead of asking (as some seemed to, to their credit) "why would a Jew feel icky about this practice?"[/quote]

But the fact that you can "imagine" a disrespectful way that this might be done does not mean that is happening on a widespread basis.  So there's that.  You are ASSUMING a lot.[/quote]

I completely agree that just because I can imagine it doesn't mean it's happening. Hence OP's question and my interest in this thread, as a Jew who only heard about this practice recently.

As for my ASSUMEing, you're wrong.  I'm trying NOT TO ASSUME.  I had to ask a question twice before I got an answer because PPs were more interested in fighting than engaging on face value.  It took 9ish pages before someone described one of these events in good faith.[/quote]

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