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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maleness is genetic. As is stupidity. But thankfully, because we are sentient beings,we can rise above the limits of our DNA.

If you don't want your kid to see naked people, bathe at home.

Signed, 
Someone who cannot imagine the courage it takes to live transgendered.[/quote]

What would stop straight men from hanging out in the women's section, if they claimed that they were transgendered?  Is there a limit to anything?  [/quote]

Have you ever met a transgendered person? It's not like this woman is just claiming she's transgendered to hang out in the women's section. She lives her whole life as a woman. It's not some kind of ploy to see you naked, I promise.

And lay off the pearl clutching about IS THERE A LIMIT TO ANYTHING? It makes you look hysterical.[/quote]

But you didn't answer PP's question... what stops straight men from pretending they're transgender just to see naked women?[/quote]

I didn't answer it because I do not believe for a second that it would ever happen. I know a lot of creeps who probably think they'd love to hang out in the women's locker room, but I'd be SHOCKED if any of them would go so far as to pretend to be transgendered to do it. The sort of creepy sexism that would accompany a desire to see a group of strange women changing clothes in a public place is usually also accompanied by hyper-masculine homophobia and transphobia.

My point was that the PP's hypothetical straight man (and keep in mind that being a transwoman or a transman does not automatically make you gay) pretending to be transgendered is simply not going to happen. If you want to have debates about safety policy, fine. I've read the press surrounding this incident and I don't think we're dealing with an activist trying to make a point or a secret trans agenda of any kind. What happened was that a transwoman, who lives her entire life as a woman and visits places like Spa World frequently, was asked to leave an establishment by the management of that establishment. Their public statements about excluding people with "abnormal sexual orientations" are discriminatory, and people have complained. Apparently, their policy has been changed and they now "welcome" LGBT folks.

If this had been my business, and I'd received complaints from women saying "THERE IS A MAN IN THE WOMEN'S AREA", I would have investigated the situation. Upon learning that the "man" in question was transgendered, my response to the complaints would be that this person identifies as female and that MyFictionalBusiness respects and welcomes all gender and sexual identities. If the complaining people wanted to leave upon hearing that policy, [b]I would be happy to refund their money[/b]. [/quote]

You will refund a boatload of money, and lose a lot of business.  [/quote]

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