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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist.  But guess what?  You’re in the minority in DC.  Thank God for that.  [/quote]

Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.[/quote]

I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC.  Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since [b]white flight happened[/b].
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Well they are coming back. [/quote]

Right.  And I'm part of that and am all for it.  My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.[/quote]

When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies. [/quote]

My post is not a moral judgment of white flight.  My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations.  There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up.  It's way over the top.  And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.

For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy."  I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city.  If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in.  That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations.  Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.[/quote]

That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.

New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.

When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous. [/quote]

Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.[/quote]

Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.

About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year? [/quote]

DC's drop is part of a broader national trend.  End of story.  Nothing to do with the Guard.[/quote]

So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence? Is the city being on track to have the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year just a magical coincidence as well?

If it wasn’t the NG that caused it to drop what was it? The city government throwing money at additional programs when the city has a $1 billion budget deficit?

Please enlighten us as to what you think caused this historic drop in murders that just happened to coincide exactly with the appearance of the NG. You just stating out of hand that the NG wasn’t a factor doesn’t make it so.

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Over the same period, violent crime has fallen in many cities - by even greater percentages - in cities that did not get NG deployments. Moreover, the recent decline in violent crime in DC continues a trend that not only began before the NG were deployed, but even before Trump took office. Exactly why crime is falling so sharply in some many cities is something of a mystery. If, by chance, your interest in this topic extends beyond partisan point-scoring, you can point your browser here to learn more: https://jasher.substack.com/[/quote]

Wow! So crime just magically rolled back in the whole country on August 12, 2025, when the NG showed up and took DC from having 100 murders from 1/1/2025 to 8/11/2025 to 127 total murders for the year in 2025?

That is an amazing coincidence!! That really should be studied. Thanks for the reading. I’m sure 3,000+ soldiers being stationed in DC didn’t lead to one less murder since they came and the article you posted will underscore this indisputable fact. Thanks for enlightening me! [/quote]

Keep in mind you're dealing with one of the people that probably kept claiming crime wasn't rising a few years back. [/quote]

Ward 8 has more violent crime than any other ward in the city.

There were 98 murders in Ward 8 in 2023, 66 in 2024, and 44 in 2025.  To date there have been 19 murders in Ward 8 in 2026–not a big improvement over 2025.

There were no NG troops in DC before 2025, and once they arrived they weren’t dispatched to Ward 8 in appreciable numbers.

Please explain how the NG contributed in any way to the dramatic drop in homocides in Ward 8 that started at least two years before they were stationed anywhere in the city, then explain why homicides in that part of the city aren’t dropping further now.

Thanks. 
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