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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Bumping post up. Really want to know what everyone thinks! Does TT really provide a lot of marginal benefit if kids are tracking to top quartile of class academically?[/quote] It matters a TON, even at the better suburban schools. For example last year at Chatham NJ - a solid upper middle class town with good school system. It's often ranked in the top 10% of the state. High property taxes but good schools is the trade off. Last year class had about 300 graduates. Obviously not everyone is bound for 4 year college, but i think it's like 90% 1 matriculation into cornell, duke, princeton, yale, uChicago - that's it for the top schools. (they did have a vandy, ucla, berkley, georgetown, usc, unc) so you have to grind hard as kid to get into a top school. and it's not like this is a piece of cake - the parents are professional and all aiming for the same schools. if the goal is BC, Tuffs, Tulane, Indiana, Middlebury, NYU, Wake Forest - and those are good schools - then that's a different story - although still have to be in top 20% of the class. College exmissions are MUCH harder in the burbs. [/quote] So I'm a bit conflicted here. I believe Princeton High School has better exmissions. 20 went to Princeton this year but supposedly only 4 to 5 without family affiliation at the university. 4 to Penn including 2 Wharton, 6 to Cornell and 7 to other Ivies, Duke or UChicago. So call it 37 Ivy+ exmits. I've heard anecdotally that only about 50 to 60 kids in a class of 300 are really gunning for the top colleges. So in this way it felt that getting into a good college would be actually LESS competitive than at a TT. Would be super curious to hear what the PHS alumn posting here has to say. [/quote] you are nuts if you think only 60 kids from Princeton high school are shooting for top schools. Princeton is a top school district. It’s brutally competitive I have heard. [/quote] Are more than 15% to 20% of suburb kids doing 8+ APs in any given class? If so this feels like a much higher percentage than when I was in HS (albeit my public HS was absolutely terrible). In terms of competition Princeton itself is not as bad as West Windsor-Plainsboro (65% East and South Asian) or Montgomery. [/quote] Yes it is. Probably sixty to seventy percent of class at Princeton is going to be “honors” level, pretty much the same as West Windsor. West Windsor is just more Asian. Both schools are top 5 percent public schools, but are under resourced compared to NY privates. There will be good teachers and smart class mates but 30 kids in a class, and college matriculation is just not at the same level. You could do public until 8th and then do Princeton Day or Lawrenceville.[/quote] So the 50 to 60 kids number came from a convo with a graduating senior from PHS but that perception might be skewed? The same student also had a perception that maybe half of his year who matriculated to Princeton were unaffiliated which sounded high. Also online it says Princeton High specifically has a 12 to 1 student teacher ratio. Feel like this ought to be accurate? [/quote]
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