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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At an OOS public you get all the assaches of your own state public school at a price usually comparable to a private:

1. Large classes

2. Registration headaches/impacted majors and classes

3. Housing headaches

4. 13th grade effect: most people come from in state and the atmosphere is more provincial than comparable or even lower ranked privates.

I would advise against OOS unless it's Michigan or a top UC, and even then I would think twice.[/quote]

I mean, if you’re making the case for Rice or Georgetown, there is some validity to this. But even then, there is a whole lot to be said for what Ann Arbor, Charlottesville, or Chapel Hill provide that these schools can’t. But if your case is for Tufts or Wake Forest or others in the next tier of privates, I’ll take the publics 100 times out of 100. Neither the top end of the class nor the faculty can compare.

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Can you expand on this because I don't follow. I think of these flagship publics as schools with a sprinkling of strong faculty that you are unlikely to interact with much and a few really spiky/impressive kids from in-state who wanted to save money or go to the flagship or whatever. But then you also get large classes, classes taught by TAs, a bunch of much less impressive students from across the state, no personal attention from the administration, etc. I definitely see some of the appeal in a prestigious state flagship, but there are also significant downsides. I just don't follow the 100 out of 100 conclusion. But it sounds like you could have more to say.[/quote]

Different poster. Your question seems genuine so I mean this in a nice way, but I think you’ve bought into a lot of online forum stereotypes that aren’t unfortunately aren’t quite true.

For example, the strong faculty at schools like Michigan, UVA, and UNC are more than “a sprinkling.” It’s pretty much the norm. It is incredibly hard and prestigious to land a tenured position at schools like this. Most of the faculty come from top PhD programs. Many of them also have undergrad teaching requirements. Most courses are taught by tenured or tenure track faculty, especially at the higher levels. There are TAs for sure but for the majority of your classes you would probably have professors.

There are also far more than a “few really spiky/impressive kids.” Let me give you an example using two of the schools mentioned, UVA and Wake. On the 24/25 CDS, UVA has twice the number of kids reporting SATs, and its middle 50 range was 1410-1520. Wake—again with far fewer reporting, usually because the scores are on the lower end—was 1420 to 1500. The 50th and 75th percentile were higher at UVA, and with more kids reporting. The proportion at UVA of high test scorers is likely much greater than the proportion at Wake.

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