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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even if a job offers it, often men cannot take it or they will be penalized. My husband took a few days. He got little leave. It sucked.[/quote] Did he lie to you about it? [/quote] No, he did not lie but most people cannot take off six weeks without risking their job. He lied as she wouldn’t listen. [/quote] Women take off more than six weeks ALL THE TIME. [/quote] Do you think that helps or hurts their career?[/quote] It only hurts women because men don’t take comparable leave when they have children…[/quote] But it doesn't stop with maternity leave. Lots of women want to get off the fast track and onto the mommy track and have more time with their kids. It limits the career but that's the choice they want to make.[/quote] And lots of women don’t want to do that but end up mommy-tracked due to stereotypes, and lots of men feel confined by stereotypes that they’re the secondary caregiver. In an equitable world, many men and women would be interested in shifting work priorities and would be given the option to do so. Instead, after kids, men make more money and women make less money even after controlling for education levels and career breaks. [/quote] You know women who got involuntarily mommy tracked? I don't know any. [/quote] Yes, I’ve litigated class actions on this…[/quote] Are you OP? Pretty strange OP hasn't come back.[/quote] No? I just know a lot about pregnancy discrimination and parental leave.[/quote] So then you would know why one parent might not want to take their leave if it can be weaponized against them at work.[/quote] As I explained, the penalty is largely derived from it being viewed as a “women” problem as opposed to an “everyone” problem. Hence why I’m a huge advocate for paternity leave. And yeah, I think it’s shitty for men who view paternity leave “as optional” to perpetuate the penalty on women by not taking their full, legally protected parental leave. While there’s a long history of “mommy tracking” there is no phenomenon of “daddy tracking” whatsoever. Women still bear the disproportionate risk.[/quote] When men birth the babies it will be an "everyone" problem. [/quote]
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