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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A nonprofit? Wasn't USAID an agency? What am I missing?[/quote]

OP are you ok? USAID isn't a nonprofit.

What was she doing for $272K a year that someone else couldn't do for say $120K or even $100K?

I do belive there are a ton of people being way overpaid in large cities like DC.[/quote]
Do you live in DC? Do you have any idea the COL here? 100k would be criminal exploitation for an educated, experienced employee.[/quote]

Based on what? Credentialism alone shouldn’t guarantee you a high paying job. What do you DO that commands a high salary? If you are fungible or easily replaceable for cheaper, tough luck. [/quote]

$100k would get you someone with four years of experience here. You seem completely unaware of the job market here.[/quote]

You are still focused on credentialism and rubrics rather than the value of what she actually DOES. You've been lost in the sauce for too long, you can't even see it. The whole premise of the thread is asking whether her skillset and was she DOES was actually worth it. Nobody is entitled to a high salary just because they went to some nice-sounding school and racked up years of service doing not much of anything. [/quote]

No, I’m actually not “lost in the sauce,” I’m just aware that you can’t find someone to do senior-level nonprofit work in DC for $100k, which is laughable. Senior roles in nonprofits have significant responsibilities that take time and experience to be able to do. You can’t find someone that can do that for $100k. It’s not hypothetical. I know nonprofits here. No one is getting someone with the relevant skills and experience to manage large budgets and teams for $100k.

Again, you clearly don’t live here so not sure why you are commenting on what the job market is like.[/quote]

You are lost in the sauce and still talking about an "job market" based on credentialism, cronyism and gatekeeping within a circumscribed, non-transferrable bubble. I know this world well and a lot of the senior people are absolutely useless, but they hid out in government, NGOs or contractors. It was turtles all the way down; the work isn't hard. The issue now is the rug has been pulled out from under that. What you are calling "skill" is really only germane to a niche that has been decimated and not really transferrable. It would appear that "program management" "strategic planning" and "budgeting" aren't as valuable as those of you lost in the sauce thought they were. [/quote]

Imagine thinking "budgeting" was an irrelevant job skill. Have you ever run anything larger than a lemonade stand?

The companies (NGOs) collapsed and melted away. That doesn't mean the jobs these people were doing were fake or unskilled. After the 2008 crisis nobody declared "banking" a niche skill without value, even though bankers couldn't get jobs. When a tech company collapses and a lot of programmers are out of work all at once, you don't say they were overpaid before because they can't find jobs now.

PP has a problem with "government, NGOs, and contractors" which is a huge swath of the economy to declare fake. Tells us PP, which jobs qualify as "real" jobs - just the one you do?[/quote]

You [i]still[/i] don't get it. The reason it's in quotes is because they are not actually that skilled in it. Many places are notoriously, horribly mismanaged and that is being exposed. Not exactly masters of resource management, innovation and lean service delivery models here. 
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How do you know this?[/quote]

I've seen it up close and personal; seen these organizations waste tons flying in consultants from out-of-country instead of hiring cheaper locals who know the country dynamics and political economy better; seen these workers prioritize racking up hotel and flight points and planning and timing itineraries to visit their friends abroad on the government dime; seen the horrible morale, favoritism and cronyism that drives actual useful talents away; seen them waste thousands if not millions on drafting "reports" that go nowhere and do nothing but give the illusion of activity; seen them stacking boards with personal friends to limit the accountability mechanism on how the place is actually run. I also know people who are executive directors who complain about how useless and entitled a lot of the workers in this sector are; whilst still having outsized self images regarding the gifts they bring to the table. T'hey'll only whisper it though, because many of these things are not to be spoken out loud.

I'm sorry but citing some organizations that are themselves part of the non-profit industrial complex (which, btw, is benchmarking against other non-profits) is not some magic answer as to why these "skills" are transferrable and command a high wage outside of said sector. Some are good, but a lot are up to these shenanigans and are crumbling under the weight of even the tiniest bit of scrutiny, which they've skirted for so long. If you are in a closed ecosystem, it does not mean those "skills" stand up to scrutiny when you actually have to execute and compete under pressure and threat of being terminated rather than coasting on the largesse of a single, fat benefactor. Citing tech workers and bankers is also dumb. People assume those jobs knowing layoffs are part of the game and the jig could be up at any given moment. No one is writing reams of think pieces profiling Jared the Managing Director from Morgan Stanley or Chad the Principal Engineer from Meta and lamenting the difficulties of his job hunt and begging for sympathy. Plus, a lot of software engineers out of a job simply freelance or coast until they find a job of their liking because...their [i]skills[/i] are in demand.[/quote]

Tell us your name and job title, or STFU and go back to watching Fox News in your basement.[/quote]

Convincing...

Sorry you are so bothered by a little bit of scrutiny. [/quote]

Says the unemployed Russian troll…[/quote]

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