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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents. Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant. Keep detainees close to their homes and families. Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer. [/quote] 1. Agree 2. Maybe 3. Yes, but [b]will you support the construction or expansion of such facilities[/b] in your probably urban/suburban area so that the detainees can be close to their families and legal support? Because many blue states are trying to keep these facilities out. Then the detainees end up in places like Alabama or Lumpkin, GA in the middle of nowhere with little opportunity for legal support. So the libs can pat themselves on the back how they are such good people for not allowing these to be built in their county or state. 4. Agree Furthermore, if all of these are achieved, there will still be some sad situations. Are you gonna be OK with that or should we never deport any noncriminal because it makes people sad?[/quote] If agents just detain people for whom they have a judicial warrant (meaning there is some evidence they should be detained, not just picking people up because they speak with an accent) that should significantly decrease the number of people who need a place in a local detention center. I am very concerned about these privately run detainment centers. I believe there is MASSIVE grift going on. The administration is paying these privately owned detainment centers money each day for the bodies they send to meet their performance quotas. And people are being kept there for a long time, to keep capacity (and thus billing) at its maximum. People are upset about Somalian run daycare centers and federal funding fraud? Please look at the massive grift that is happening with these detainment centers.[/quote] If I came here illegally via southern border crossing undetected, how would ICE know about me to obtain a warrant? If I'm in the car with someone who ICE is after, then I could be detained as well.[/quote] If no one knows about you? That means you aren’t terribly scary or harmful. Deport the actual bad guys. Require documentation of legal status for all federal aid, sure. Investigate anyone applying for federal aid to see if their documentation is up to date and correct. You can even investigate employers to be sure they are correctly screening their employees for permission to work. But stop coming down heavily on random people just to see what you find. [/quote] Some employers are using e-verify and not catching people because they are using stolen IDs. If I am in the car in the above scenario then I should be detained if necessary. Send a clear message that illegal immigration will not be tolerated. What is so difficult about that? Also, know that schools receive federal funding for things such as school lunches. Are you in favor of verifying status to enroll?[/quote] ICE is operating under the quotas imposed by Trump himself. People are not just 'detained'. The agents have incentive to arrest people because that counts for their quota whether they are here illegally or not. People/Americans/immigrants (legal and otherwise) are arrested and sent to facilities/camps and held until they can produce x papers/documents. This is a violation of the fourth amendment and possibly 8th amendment. That is what is 'difficult' about that. The presence of people here illegally does not give the feds the right to violate these rights much less normalize their violation. As for kids getting free food at schools - I will [i]maybe[/i] care about that after Trump and his family and other criminal hanger-ons who are in charge of our country and profiting off of all of us to the tune of billions are GONE and hopefully in prison. [/quote] I was talking about my case above. [b]ICE has authority to detain me and ask for papers if they have reason to suspect I am here illegally.[/b] Being in the car with someone who is also here illegally would be reason enough. You don’t think they should be doing that?[/quote] I really don't think ICE should be conducting random traffic stops thinking people might be here illegally. Because they would have to base it on racial profiling or employment profiling, and I just don't want to live in a world where armed agents can just pull people over and demand to see their papers when they are just out living their lives. It's bad for me as a citizen to live in a country where officials can just do this. If ICE has reason to suspect you, driving your car, are here illegally, I want that suspicion to be founded on something; based in reality, and signed off on by a judge. Not an administrative documents authorized by someone higher up in ICE. Someone representing the judicial branch, not the executive branch. They need to have, for example, your name and the license plate of the car you are driving. So the warrant will be written for "Jose Herrera, age 32; we know he is here in violation of his visa; he is driving a car with license plate 6667666 and is believed to be living with friends at XYZ address." THAT is tthe level of detail I want ICE to have to prove that they have reasonable suspicion he is here illegally. Then they can go pick up JUST HIM. Not other people in his car; not other people in his house. Him. And let him defend himself or prove that you are in error, before you send him off to the Texas detainment centers. (Also get rid of the criminal way detainees are treated, but that is another battle to fight). The reason I care so much about protecting the rights of those here illegally is selfish. It's because protecting the rights of some people (even undocumented) protects the rights of ALL of us (including me, here legally).[/quote]
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