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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If SCEA is so bad for a certain profile of kid (non hook), why do all the high school counselors seem to still insist the odds are better?  [/quote]

I think because the odds are never great, and a deferral seems to slightly raise your chances in rd. [/quote]

Sure, but there is often a very high opportunity cost for unhooked students from the burbs applying SCEA to HYPS. Of course a handful of random unhooked students get in, but these students, no matter how brilliant, are not a priority for these schools. They want the major hooks - athlete, rich, prominent family, legacy, faculty kids. And they want first generation, low income, and rural. Not a lot of spots available otherwise.

And in the meantime, they have given up their chance to apply ED to Penn, Duke, Brown, Vanderbilt, Columbia, Rice, Cornell, Northwestern, Chicago, and Johns Hopkins. And Regular Decision is exceptionally difficult at most of these schools. I think the RD acceptance rate at Duke and Vandy was about 3 percent last year.

For MC and UMC students without hooks, I think you really need to love Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford to apply SCEA. Like, you can't imagine yourself anywhere else. But the risk is incredibly high. The RD round is carnage for a lot of great students. [/quote]

I think I agree with you. We have a Princeton legacy with a tippy top SAT score, top grades and rigor, and good extracurriculars, and even we are not sure whether to take this chance or not next year, given that legacy does not appear to be a strong advantage these days from what we were told. DC loves Princeton but also almost equally loves one of the other schools on your list that gives a clear advantage to ED applicants, so it may just not be worth the risk and hassle to try for SCEA. [/quote]

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