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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think Usha and JD are happily married.

I think they are in a committed marriage, which is a totally different animal.

They are a professional unit at this time.

They’re absolutely not going to be together for a lifetime or anything. [/quote]

It’s weird. No idea what hit Usha over the head to marry this hillbilly.  [/quote]

I went to YLS.  It is a small place without a lot of dating options plus a feeling that you’re sort of in a close community together.  I’m pretty sure they were in the same “small group” which is a group of about 10 students that have one first semester  small group class together plus all their first semester classes together so naturally bond and form study groups together.  Marriages from small group are not uncommon.  I think maybe Jed or Amy was their small group professor and it’s not uncommon for small group professors to host get together and such.  My small group professor was a nice guy but definitely not the kind to be bonding with students.  There was one marriage out of my small group of 10.  Anyway you spend three years with the same group of like 200 people and it’s very insular and everyone is doing the same things and having lots of intellectual conversations, so I think it makes for some pairings that you might not see in a normal world.[/quote]

Nearly all attractive charismatic students at my T15 matriculated de facto engaged. Usha and JD were 25 year old 1Ls. Weird terminally single strivers like Usha and JD immediately orbit creepy over-involved professors and will do anything for them, including enter arranged relationships. [/quote]

The addition of the Amy Chua and her creepy husband, Jed, to the Usha and JD Vance pairing is a weird example of [b]how sexually toxic even the highest, most educated echelons of America are.[/b] Depressing that even highly educated men are encouraged to value their female partners for their utility value in terms of what the woman can do to increase the man’s professional value and highly educated women are encouraged to “sell” themselves to prospectively successful men instead of investing in their own professional success. [/quote]

Enter Bill Clinton another from YLS[/quote]

YLS is super toxic but not sexually so.  There’s really not that much sex happening.  Jed is gross, yes, but there are really not people trading on sexuality at YLS and my understanding from professors was that Bill (when he attended a million years ago) was barely there.  Hillary was the studious one.  There’s a lot of distinction at YlS and a lot of people with stunted social skills but the people insisting that Jed/amy had them in an arranged marriage for political gain are just way off mark.  It is a world in which many people are lonely, many people have not had the oppprtinity to have a lot of other relationships, and most people are actually genuinely attracted to people’s intellect.  Jed and Amy play match maker with the judiciary and other power brokers but they arent pairing off students as some power play.  Some people will naturally pair off in that environment.  I am convinced their relationship was genuine.
Whether they still are in the same headspace years later, after three kids, two major moves,two major job changes, a religious conversion, and a major change in personality/outlokk, I don’t know.  A lot of women in her situation would feel very disoriented in those circumstances, but she doesn’t seem to.  Maybe it’s clear she’ll get her judicial appointment — God knows they’ve pushed through people who were less qualified.  [/quote]
Doesn’t Jed have a bunch of sexual misconduct allegations?[/quote]

Yes, as I said, Jed is gross, and Amy has looked the other way on that forever.  But none of the allegations involved them setting up students in fake relationships as a power play.  That’s just not a thing.  And people who suggest that just don’t understand how things work among people like Usha — people like this find it attractive when people are smart, ambitious, well spoken.  That’s more of a turn on than 6 pack abs.  I really think their relationship was genuine but a lot has changed since they married — those sorts of changes would strain any marriage.  I just don’t have any sense of where Usha’s head is now and I don’t think anyone else does either.  My understanding is that they’ve sort of cut themselves off from their law school friends and Usha has only a couple of friends from HS or college in her life.  I would think things might even be strained with her parents given the attacks on academia etc.   I think her situation is much more odd than melanias—I doubt she realized she was marrying a chameleon.  Melania knew exactly who she was marrying.  [/quote]

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