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Thank you. OP here. Yes my son was also looking at Trinity College. How big is their 1st year entry class? Are there a lot of Americans there?
If you have an EU passport does that change anything as it relates to fees?[/quote]

NP with kid at TCD who had similar views to those in PP 16:06. According to the latest TCD info (2022-23), they've got about 15,000 undergrads, so I'd guess roughly 3500+ first years. My kid reports classes tend to be quite large, with professors and TAs expecting students to do the bulk of their study/research on their own. (An aside: There is very little handholding/spoon feeding - and you/your kid should be aware of the different grading system as well. This pamphlet covers grades, as well as the expectations. It's not enough to study what the professor covers - in many courses, kids need to demonstrate wide-ranging critical analysis to get a 70+. https://www.tcd.ie/study/assets/PDF/StudyingAtTrinity_Dec18_Web.pdf)

I don't think they publish the breakdown of student nationality beyond EU/non-EU, but will say my kid has many American and/or dual-national friends, several of whom are also EU passport holders.

You can see the fees breakdown here, as it varies my major: https://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergraduate/fees/, but yes, fees for EU passport holders are much cheaper than for other international students.

Hope this is helpful. My kid is so happy with their decision.[/quote]

DP: Are you sure that fees are based on nationality and not residence? I think it's the later.  It's not enough to hold an EU passport (or even as Irish passport), you need to be an active resident in an EU territory for three (or five?) years prior to entry . . . . [/quote]

First poster with a kid at TCD -- my understanding is fees in Ireland are based on residence and qualifying for EU fees requires residency in an EU country for three out of the last five years. That said, the international fees for TCD are 22,000 euros for my DC's course this year, which even with the cost of living in Dublin works out to a total cost of attendance that is less expensive than, say, St Andrews or LSE.

My humanities student has some classes with &lt;20 students while others, which draw students from multiple majors, are larger. They are the only American in their suite -- other students are from Ireland, the UK, India and China -- but met a number of other Americans during the &quot;Smart Start&quot; week for international students. Their main response about other students, so far, is &quot;everyone is so smart&quot;. 
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