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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree Midd is in decline as is Trinity and Wesleyan. Colby on an upward trajectory![/quote]

Colby was ranked #11 in USNews in 2022. Last year it was 25. Doesn't sound much like an upward trajectory to me![/quote]
Colby just got a ton of money. But US News does not decide things on this front, in any event. Observers know which way certain colleges are “moving.” Midd is not in the decline because of US News methodology, but because of its own, well-documented issues.[/quote]

Well discussed and well understood.

There are no “issues” at Middlebury but there was a well documented change the USNWR methodology regarding which IPEDs number was used for determining the student population which had a big impact on their resources per student calculation because the using the 12 month number added 2200 summer language school kids to their population when calculating resources per student. Forbes made a similar change and Middlebury is no longer ranked as a small school though it did not affect their overall ranking in Forbes.

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So their resources per student were accurately tabulated and that’s bad? [/quote]
Midd endowment per student - not counting these summer kids - is just not on the same level as top SLACs. WASP, Bowdoin, and Grinnell have way over a million in endowment per student;Washington and Lee and Wellesley, a million; Claremont McKenna and Smith, over 750k; Davidson, Hamilton, Carleton, 600k; and Midd, Colby and Reed below 500k (but Colby just got wealthier). https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/[/quote]

Endowment per student doesn't translate into a better educational experience. All of these schools with $1B+ endowments have enough money to provide excellent facilities, hire top talent, and provide robust financial aid packages. At a certain point, it's just hoarding, really. Princeton's endowment per student is $3.7M. Does Williams provide half as good an educational experience because its endowment per student is $1.7M?

And Colby didn't just add $150M to its endowment. They received a gift that has a specific purpose--to build a new science complex. You don't seem to know much about how endowments work. [/quote]
Endowment money is usually geared to a specific purpose. It will be calculated in — until it’s used.

Regardless, Colby still doesn’t have the endowment to compete with the big boys. You don’t seem to realize that it matters when a school has 3x the per capita endowment of Midd.  [b]It matters in all sorts of ways…[/b][/quote]

Name one, an actual one where Williams, Amherst, and Bowdoin provide opportunities significantly different than at Hamilton, Middlebury, Wesleyan, or Colby? I used to work at one of the schools in the list. I also spent time at CMC so I’m pretty good in this space…..think hard, really hard and give it your best shot. We’ll be waiting.[/quote]
Wesleyan president recently joked at a talk I attended that parents were rushing to him asking when they were going to offer courses like at Williams where they learn art history and then go to Florence. Williams' tutorials system is unique to its endowment capabilities. Bowdoin has an arctic, environmental, and coastal studies center, funded strongly by their great endowment. Amherst doesn't have much; I've never been impressed by it. [/quote]
Last I checked, Williams has not only a no-loan financial aid policy, but a no work policy either. Not even work-study. How about Midd?[/quote]
Go eps! Williams also has a long history of being racist: https://williamsrecord.com/469671/news/dorm-room-door-defaced-with-derogatory-and-hateful-slurs/[/quote]

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