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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree Midd is in decline as is Trinity and Wesleyan. Colby on an upward trajectory![/quote] Colby was ranked #11 in USNews in 2022. Last year it was 25. Doesn't sound much like an upward trajectory to me![/quote] Colby just got a ton of money. But US News does not decide things on this front, in any event. Observers know which way certain colleges are “moving.” Midd is not in the decline because of US News methodology, but because of its own, well-documented issues.[/quote] Well discussed and well understood. There are no “issues” at Middlebury but there was a well documented change the USNWR methodology regarding which IPEDs number was used for determining the student population which had a big impact on their resources per student calculation because the using the 12 month number added 2200 summer language school kids to their population when calculating resources per student. Forbes made a similar change and Middlebury is no longer ranked as a small school though it did not affect their overall ranking in Forbes. [/quote] So their resources per student were accurately tabulated and that’s bad? [/quote] Midd endowment per student - not counting these summer kids - is just not on the same level as top SLACs. WASP, Bowdoin, and Grinnell have way over a million in endowment per student;Washington and Lee and Wellesley, a million; Claremont McKenna and Smith, over 750k; Davidson, Hamilton, Carleton, 600k; and Midd, Colby and Reed below 500k (but Colby just got wealthier). https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/[/quote] Endowment per student doesn't translate into a better educational experience. All of these schools with $1B+ endowments have enough money to provide excellent facilities, hire top talent, and provide robust financial aid packages. At a certain point, it's just hoarding, really. [b]Princeton's endowment per student is $3.7M. Does Williams provide half as good an educational experience because its endowment per student is $1.7M? [/b] And Colby didn't just add $150M to its endowment. They received a gift that has a specific purpose--to build a new science complex. You don't seem to know much about how endowments work. [/quote] In terms of volumes of opportunities, I’d say 100% yes. Princeton essentially operates as a liberal arts college while having some of the best academic resources in the world.[/quote] If that is what you say then you would be 100% wrong because by your thinking Princeton would be about 20x as good Goddard’s as Columbia or Cornell and does that really make any sense?[/quote] Yes it does. If you're an undergrad at Princeton, you have it made. I'm not sure why you think otherwise, other than being very stubborn in opinion.[/quote] If you think that the Princeton experience is significantly different than other top schools you need a reality check.[/quote] He says with no evidence or reasoning. Clearly you didn't get a Princeton-level education.[/quote]
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