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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If Israel doesn’t undertake serious internal reform or cannot be reined-in by world condemnation, we will inevitably approach an inflection point where most of the world’s population of 8+ billion people are going to view Zionists as responsible for and fully deserving of whatever misfortune comes their way. Tough talk aside, Israel is making a massive miscalculation in thinking that it has the ability to withstand what would come next.
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Israel is preventing "any misfortune which comes their way" by neutralizing Palestinian terror.  So that won't be a problem.  Annexing the West Bank is a means towards that end.  No terror, no settlements.  Sufficient settlements, no terror.  Refusing the first option leads to the second option.[/quote]

Certainly neutralised the six kids waiting for water. “Eyewitnesses said a drone fired a missile at a crowd queuing with empty jerry cans next to a water tanker in al-Nuseirat refugee camp.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rvxjnvv71o

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So what's the root cause?  Oct. 7 ring any bells?  Release the hostages, surrender.  Simple.  [/quote]

Israel had been terrorizing and murdering Palestinian children since European settlers arrived in Palestine in the early 1900s. This is not about 10/8. Its about a bigoted hatred of Palestinians.[/quote]

Hatred of Palestinians has been well-earned, from 1947 onwards, given their nonstop efforts to eradicate Israel by force.  And, anyway, any distaste for Palestinians on Oct 6 didn't translate into any Israelis rampaging into Gaza to rape, murder and kidnap Palestinians.  The Palestinians started the current conflict on Oct 7, like so many others they started in years past, and are reaping the same consequences.  Some people never learn.  [/quote]

1947, the year the Zionists invaded Palestine by force? [/quote]

You're thinking of 1947, when the U.N. partition plan for the British Mandate,  would have created separate Arab and Jewish states.  The Jewish community accepted the plan, the Arabs immediately attacked the new state of Israel, which was formed by Jews already living on the land in question.  Jordan and Egypt controlled the remainder; the Palestinians never controlled any of it, never had any legal claim or right to it, and are present-day squatters on it.   [/quote] Obviously the Arabs wouldn't accept it? Europeans were just randomly taking away territory that they had been living on out of nowhere. Yawn. [/quote]

It never "belonged" to the Palestinians.  "Arab land" in Gaza is a fiction promulgated by stateless people who rejected their opportunity for a state of their own in 1947.

Gaza has variously been occupied and governed by the Canaanites, Israelites, Phoenicians, and so on up to the Ottoman Empire until 1917, and then the British, and then the Egyptians.  Israel captured it in the 1967 6-Day War.  When have the Palestinians "owned" Gaza?  Never.  They're squatters, there by sufferance.    
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Call them whatever you want. It still doesn’t justify their genocide. [/quote]

True, Hamas' genocidal ambitions are unjustified by anything, despite being enshrined in their founding "Covenant" and couched in Islamic religious language.  [/quote]

Likud charter, dum dum.[/quote]

What about it?  It says peace is a central aim of Israel's policy.  It calls for the Palestinians to annul those parts of their charter which call for the destruction of Israel, and to prevent terror against Israel.  It opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state but calls for Palestinian self-governance.  If says nothing about annihilating Palestinians or about engaging in terror to advance political aims.

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Wrong.

It not only preambles the charter with “from the river to the sea”, which you Zionists have long insisted means genocide of the “other”, but the Likud charter actually COINED the phrase!

So the ruling party of Israel proudly proclaims that the very first objective of their existence is to annihilate the Palestinians. Indisputable. The Israeli government seeks to annihilate the Palestinian people so that There are only Jews from the river to the sea.

Gross. [/quote]

People can read the Hamas Covenant for themselves, and can read it for it says. Pro-terror whitewashing doesn't change the fundamental character of the people supporting it.  Ditto for Likud, which is obviously focused on restricting neighboring terror regimes.  Why would such a political party even need to exist?  Palestinian terror from 1947 on provides the clear answer.  [/quote]

So, lemme see if I have this right … Hamas took the step of removing the objectionable language from their charter, but that’s “just whitewashing” because you - arbiter of all - understand the fundamental character of people?

But Likud, which has done nothing to remove the objectionable language in their charter, is justified because - and I have to stifle a chuckle here - because Israel is just minding its own business, surrounded by bullies who inflict terror on them for no reason at all … and certainly not because an alien race of immoral supremacists massacred their way into their midst, and have spent the past 9 or 10 decades systematically and very transparently seeking to dominate and subjugate everyone in the region?

Well, a bit of a news flash for you: civilized, sane people tend to agree that the fundamental character of a people can best be understood by considering the number of nations that have deemed them undesirable in their midst. That is, how many times they have been dispelled from one place or another.

So I’d say … maybe think of glass houses more often when trying to further malign a group of people that you have done immeasurable harm to over the past however many years.[/quote]

Terrorism is an enduring characteristic of the Palestinian zeitgeist, both before and after Hamas.  The other persistent feature is the inevitable consequential loss of mostly Palestinian land and life, predictable results of essentially continuous Palestinian aggression against a determined, implacable, and competent adversary they have never been able to intimidate.

https://www.ajc.org/IsraelConflictTimeline

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/palestinian-terror-past-present-and-future-some-observations

https://www.gov.il/en/pages/victims-of-palestinian-violence-and-terrorism

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Where is foresight in the Zionist equation? Do you seriously believe that your self-styled determined, implacable, competent spirit (which those who aren’t imbeciles simply refer to as U.S. welfare) lasts, oh I don’t know, more than 30 - 40 minutes when the time comes that the world has finally had enough of this shit?

Think of it in these terms - banking on uninterrupted U.S. protection is wholly incompatible with the reality of world history. Mutually assured destruction isn’t the protection you think it is because Israel wouldn’t get off the first nuke before China and Russia (and probably the U.S., Great Britain, and France, too, depending on the status of the eventual decline in the U.S. relationship noted above) would pulverize the Holy Land into dust.

Do you really think Israel is going to survive the consequences of its policies and actions today? If so, that’s incredible suspension of reality at work.[/quote]

Keep holding your breath waiting for Palestinians to ever achieve anything at Israel's expense through terror.  It hasn't happened in the 78 years since Israel came into being, and there is no reason at all to expect that to ever change, given the diametrically opposed characters, competence, motivations  and actions of the two sides.  Palestinian aggression and terror will continue to be recognized for what it is, and will continue to be vigorously suppressed; no civilized 3rd countries favor terrorism, even if a few sometimes think the Israeli reaction to it may be too harsh.  When that sentiment exists, it is nonetheless accompanied by recognition and acceptance that terrorism is never acceptable and must result in an effective response; the argument is merely about the extent and nature of the response, not whether one should occur.  [/quote]

Who said anything about the Palestinians, Myopia McGee?

Your problem looming directly ahead is much, much, much more terrifying than a tribe of natives you’ve spent decades abusing somehow running it back.

You’ve managed, as you always do, to create enmity around the globe, and enemies near and far. Your grip on the narrative and flow of information is dead.

You’re welcome to bury your head in the sand, but you’re not doing yourself any favors or mitigating anything with the tough guy talk, the obnoxious hubris, the victim cosplaying, and the callous disregard for the lives of “the other”.

But I don’t expect you to get it … it’s obvious you literally thought that invincibility was a feature, not the bug it actually is (to be resolved when the U.S. got out over its skis running interference for you, which is a process already underway as these words meet your eyes).[/quote]

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