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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What are your thoughts son the anti-ice protests?[/quote]

...thoughts *on the anti-ICE protests? (apologies for typo)[/quote]

I’m not a fan of the protests. The vast majority of the agents “are just doing what they are being ordered to do” and are likely not a fan of it. [/quote]

You don’t get to hide behind “just following orders”.  Sorry. Not sorry. [/quote]

I don’t necessarily agree with their strategy or tactics, but their mission (rounding up illegal aliens) is legal.  At this point, every non-political appointee working in the federal govt “is just following orders.”  Therefore, everyone should resign? 
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There is no obligation to follow illegal or immoral  orders.[/quote]

As far as the arresting of illegal aliens, what actual laws are ICE agents breaking?[/quote]

Aside from arresting US citizens on extremely dubious claims of “interference?”[/quote]

The question was specifically about arrests of illegal aliens.[/quote]

I'm no expert but....I've read that ICE can indeed legally detain U.S. citizens.

Suppose an ICE agent reasonably suspects that a person is a non-citizen subject to deportation and their citizenship cannot be quickly verified (e.g., with a passport, birth certificate). In that case, they may be detained temporarily during the investigation. ICE agents may detain a U.S. citizen if there is a reasonable suspicion they are also a non-citizen subject to deportation and their citizenship status cannot be immediately verified.

OP - can you please chime in?[/quote]

How might an ICE agent suspect that a person is in the country illegally (not just a non-citizen)? How might they just happen upon someone that fits that and what would be the signs that would cause reasonable suspicion?

I’m not challenging, just wondering. [/quote]

Not OP, but imagine you get a tip that there’s a sweatshop that employees a bunch of illegal immigrants or that there is a sex trafficking ring run by and using illegal immigrants who’ve been trafficked. It seems reasonable to ask for the legal status of everyone there when you arrive at the scene.

Likewise, if you are a police officer raiding a chop shop for stolen cars you are going to detain and ask for the identities of everyone on the chop shop when you raid it.

For some reason these ICE agents are held to standards that don’t apply to any other LOE. [/quote]

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