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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze?  The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman.  It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%.  It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

[b]Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.[/b][/quote]

That will be an awesome option for some families.[/quote]

That just takes the most motivated kids with supportive parents out of the high farms schools which then become even worse with less opportuntities[/quote]

but you want the more motivated kids to be able to take advantage of opportunities that less motivated kids won't.  at the very least it will help some of them get out of schools with a higher likelihood of behavior issues.[/quote]
+100[/quote]

You guys are like:
"Bus rides are terrible for kids, especially poor kids" 
And
"Give the poor kids an opportunity by asking them to take a long bus ride to the whitest school, and who cares about the kids that can't/won't do that"[/quote]

But busing kids long distances is option 3.  Do you object to option 3?[/quote]

I don't know how many times I have to say that I don't think the long bus rides in Option 3 are worth it?

But fwiw with this "Option 5" plan y'all are saying give any FARMS kids from anywhere the option to go to low poverty schools. Do you not realize their travel times will likely be much longer if they first have to get to centralized bus stops? If anything this plan highlights that Option 3 is actually not that bad because the kids get bus service from their neighborhoods.[/quote]

this is an anonymous forum so no one knows it's you.  You get that, right?  Or maybe just identify yourself.

Option 3 won't work for reasons already detailed (mainly, people will segregate so you can't force FARMS rates through involuntary busing.  Voluntary busins may fare better but only up to a point).[/quote]

Then why ask me about Option 3 when it's not what we're talking about? Obviously you (or a PP) made some assumption about that in order to distract from your (or their) blatant hypocrisy in strenuously objecting to long bus rides when it's your kids but demanding that poor kids endure longer travel times and if they don't it's because they aren't motivated enough so who cares.[/quote]

This thread is about refinements to Option 3.  Option 3 takes as a given busing long distances.  Indeed, it is the only way to increase the FARMS rates at Whitman.  However, Option 3 also doesn't actually do a great job of equalizing FARMS rates.  So if we take as given that long bus rides are something that BOE accepts for Option 3's purpose, we can try to improve upon that by making it voluntary and focusing on the one place FARMS rates are extremely low.[/quote]

More distraction from your hypocrisy[/quote]

Try to engage on the substance.
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