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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Has this been posted? NYT does a really good of laying things out. These are clearly aid workers

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/world/middleeast/gaza-israel-aid-workers-deaths-video.html?smid=nytcore-ios-
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Their loss is the direct result of Hamas intransigence, prolonging the conflict needlessly.

Release the hostages.  Surrender.  [/quote]

Keep repeating propaganda[/quote]

Keep ignoring the reason the war is continuing, you mean?  [/quote]

No, I mean you are a disingenuous clown who spews propaganda because every sentient being within a hundred miles of reality knows that a) lying is the Israeli national pastime and that b) releasing the hostages and surrendering would do nothing to end the conflict because Israel will simply move the goal posts.

That movie has been on replay for decades, dumb dumb. Did you really think you can persist with the propaganda in 2025?[/quote]

As opposed a clown who refuses to concede the Palestinian situation is self-inflicted even though that's so obvious?  As opposed to someone who is incapable of acknowledging Palestinian criminality in the form of Hamas?  As opposed to someone who can't admit that hostage taking, not to mention rape and murder, is obscene, never justified, and the reason for the conflict?  No, it's all due to that nakba thing 77 years ago which happened because the Palestinians wouldn't accept a country of their own if it meant the Jews got one too, so they attacked the new State of Israel, got crushed, kept trying over the years, kept getting crushed, tried again on Oct 7, and are still being crushed, but that's too difficult to accept, isn't it?  Give up.  Surrender.  Release the hostages.  Or keep doing the same thing and sit there in your keffiyeh, safely behind your keyboard in the U.S., wondering why the Palestinians seem to get no sympathy and keep dying.

And the idea that they may as well not release the hostages because that won't end the conflict?  Was there fighting on Oct 6?  Were 50K Palestinians wiped out on Oct 6?  Never mind, let's keep holding hostages because there can't possibly be any relationship between that and Israeli military action, which is apparently being undertaken because the IDF has nothing better to do.  Who cares if we lose another 50K, or 100K more noncombatants?  No point in any critical self-examination as to why the sky is falling on our heads, that's a waste of time.  And, if we do think about it, let's not think about our hostage-taking, which is surely unrelated.  Let's just keep doing what we're doing.  That'll make things better, for sure.  Brilliant reasoning.  [/quote]

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