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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.

With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily. [/quote]

You are missing the big picture. It’s bad for Wall Street. But this is going great if you are from Main Street. 
No pain, no gain. Finally a president who is fighting for main street. 
Manufacturing jobs will have to come back to the US. If these corporations don’t do it, they will keep watching their stock prices sinking.

[/quote] and you believe this domestic manufacturing boom will manifest itself within what time frame?

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It could take years. It’ll be painful but it will make us stronger. Our kids will thank us.
We have been through recessions before and came out stronger. Why are people so scared?[/quote]

NP. You don't understand that manufacturing ended up in SE Asia because it was cheaper. This was beneficial for the US consumer. "Bringing manufacturing back" will mean that products will cost 5-10x to produce. [/quote]
It will cost 5-10x more but will be better quality and last longer.
The American dream wasn’t about cheap Chinese products.
Americans will pay more for good quality US made products.[/quote]

My family buys American-made goods whenever we can because we are a union family. For example, we only buy American cars. In that respect, we are more patriotic than most MAGA who purport to be more patriotic than anyone else. But the vast majority of Americans are so used to all the cheap crap they buy at Target, Amazon, Walmart, and the like that your "dream" will never be a reality. Our whole economy is BASED ON consumer consumption of lots of cheap crap. What do you think is going to replace that? You can't put the genie back in the bottle and start asking people to buy things that will cost "5-10x more" as you blithely suggest. [/quote]

Also, forget just the cheap stuff. People won’t be able to afford housing (including repairs, new roof, etc.), food, cars to get to work.

Bringing back the hey day of manufacturing to the U.S. is a pipe dream. We have so much technology now and the labor market is so saturated that there is no way whatever jobs are created will be good paying stable jobs. We will have iRobot making our shirts with only a bit of human oversight. Companies will find whatever way possible to cheap out so they can make more money. That is their entire basis for existence. These corporations aren’t going to suddenly become patriotic and decide to paying decent wages, healthcare, etc.

Not to mention this administration is all about gutting unions.

Why in the world working class Americans would ever believe these rich con men *who have made their living lying to people and not paying contracts/severance etc.* would suddenly reinvigorate the middle class with manufacturing jobs is beyond me. At this point I figure if you are that dumb you deserve whatever poverty is headed your way. [/quote]

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