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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The most highly ranked schools have the highest score profiles and it gradually declines as you go down the list. It’s all just a sorting mechanism based on test scores (outside of hooks). It seems nearly impossible that an unhooked student can get into a T15 type school without super high scores. Ironically TO may have made the emphasis on scores more pronounced because unhooked students essentially need great scores. For all the yapping about curating a class, they are really just filling their classes when the highest scoring kids they can get. This shouldn’t be interpreted as meaning a high score automatically gets you in anywhere. [/quote] I think USNWR is now kind of a mashup of two lists. The first is highly selective (high stat), wealthy schools (high resources) that are predominantly private. The second is high mobility (Pell grant), high research schools that are predominantly public. To boost schools in the second group, they dropped ranking criteria like class size, student-to-faculty ratio, and alumni giving %.[/quote] Yes, and rankings are better as a result. There are excellent private [b]and[/b] public colleges out there. Most of the DCUMers complaining are for their privates they attended 30 years ago "dropping" in USNWR ranking. [/quote] I think the rankings should focus on educational quality and cost. [/quote] You mean value. Value is different from people to people Cohort quality effects educational quality a lot. Every year student rank the schools with all those information. [b]The actual outcome of the yearly ranking is a combination of acceptance rate[/b] + yield rate + cohort quality (i.e. SAT which is objectively measurable) then retention rate and graduation rate as secondary data. We get actual the real ranking by the choices and actions by the actual students, the consumers. [/quote] Forgive me, I'm a bit behind in this discussion, what "actual ranking" is the bolded referring to? One you have made yourself, or an idealized one? (US News dropped acceptance rate from their formula years ago.)[/quote]
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