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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think she’s cute. She’s sweet. The surgery enhanced her looks. She’s very sexy and exotic. I wish I looked like her. [/quote]

This makes me SO sad for you. She doesn't look exotic or cute at all. And she just looks fake and plastic. Her surgeries did NOT enhance her looks. They completely changed them. Please aim higher. [/quote]

+1. She doesn’t even look like the same person. She will not age well either. She already looks a decade older than she is. [/quote]

No she doesn't. Not yet anyway.[/quote]

From the perspective of a previously cute, now 57-year-old woman, I think Kylie looks absolutely adorable. Her kid is so cute and she seems like a loving mom. I have never understood all the hate for the Kardashians. I mean, who have they hurt? They try to do good with all the money they made basically just being famous. And they all seem to work hard, too.[/quote]

Part of me agrees with what you are saying and part of me feels like they are getting rich selling a very dangerous product.  Like the Sackler family — I’m sure they donated some significant amount of their incredible wealth to charity and worked hard, but that didn’t make them good people.  The Kardashian family is selling artificial beauty (which is expensive and dangerous) and vapidity to young women.  I guess it’s not as dangerous as opioids, but it’s not great.  [/quote]

If anything, they’re selling the idea that “beauty” is accessible to all, as long as you have the money and/or develop the skills.  Leveling the playing field in many ways.

Maybe this is why so many people find them so threatening?[/quote]

DP and disagree that they are "leveling the playing field" regarding beauty. The Kardashians have spent millions of dollars to look the way they do. Plastic surgery that they have reversed to follow body trend. Hair extensions, botox, fillers -- temporary treatments that cost thousands annually to maintain. Then layered on top of all of that are the makeup trends that are labor and time intensive and require specialty products -- you can't buy the products you need to create "Kardashian face" for $20 at the drugstore. You're talking hundreds on products for contouring, fake eyelashes, eyebrow treatments, etc. Plus the time it takes to do it. They have professional who come and do their hair and makeup so it's passive for them but the audience they sell to could spend hours to create the same look.

It's not accessible or democratized. Sure, Kylie wants to sell the idea that she is democratizing it by selling a beauty line -- the whole point is to convince consumers that if they buy these products from her, they can look like her. It's always been BS. You can't get Kylie's lips with a lip plumper from her line -- her lips are the result of filler and 3 or 4 different products (most of which are not actually from her line) applied by a professional makeup artist.

I don't find them threatening, I just think they are selling a lie. I do admire their family bonds and some of them are insanely hard working. But Jeff Bezos is hard working too, doesn't mean I think his company is great or that a lot of what he does isn't unethical.[/quote]

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