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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected. [/quote]
I disagree. If two ivies accept and a top 75 rejects, it's not a copying mechanism. Yield protection is real.[/quote]

If it’s a consistent pattern, maybe. But it’s also possible that the student did something in the application to the T75 school to warrant the rejection. There are a lot of kids now applying to 25 or more schools and it’s hard not to make mistakes/get sloppy with the essays. [/quote]

Such a perfectly impervious theory. Didn’t get in? You should have applied to more schools. Still didn’t get in? You applied to too many schools. No matter what happens, it’s always the kid’s fault. [/quote]

Nope, not blaming the kids.  But there are simply way, way more qualified students than their are slots at the "top" schools. The bottom line is that kids need to understand that nothing is guaranteed, that they are not entitled to get into any one of these schools (regardless of their metrics), and that there are other kids who are just as deserving as they are.  Moreover, as soon as everyone realizes that there are super-smart, highly-accomplished kids at literally hundreds of colleges--kids just as amazing as their own (gasp!)--everyone will be better off.[/quote]

Sorry, but my issue with yield protection isn’t the top schools. I get that they’re too small for their avowed purpose. It’s the lower-tier schools like Elon. You wind up with high stats kids who don’t get into top schools because of random chance, and then also can’t get in to lower-tier schools because those schools assume the kids will get into a more impressive school OR because the lower-tier school filled up with less impressive kids in the ED round. The high stats wind up being an albatross that prevent strong students from getting into the kind of small or mid-size, four year private residential college they wanted. This is why people with 1600s debate applying TO to those mid-tier schools. The schools’ behavior shows them to be so opposed to academic achievement that students think they might have to hide it. And it makes me sad and angry to see educational institutions treat educational achievement as a strike against anyone. [/quote]

Your view is so judgmental and cynical.  The lower ranked schools are making a calculation, often based on demonstrated interest.  Educational achievement is not a strike against these almighty high stats kids.  The reality is that they likely did not show interest or did not tailor their essays to the school.  Lower stats schools would love to have high stats kids but they want kids who want to be there and who will accept.  My kid went to Elon and there are plenty of high stats kids there.  They are kids who wanted to be there and likely articulated why.  They are kids who applied for programs like fellows.  That shows the school they are serious.  They are not kids who just clicked a few boxes and cut and pasted a couple of essays.  These schools can tell who has spent the time getting to know the school and actually wants to be there as opposed to the kids who were told they need a “safety” and assume they are too good for the school and can’t be bothered to demonstrate interest.

If your kid demonstrated interest and did not get in, there is likely some other problem.[/quote]

Exactly!  [b]It's up to your kid to convince each and every school they are your #1 choice.[/b]  If you don't do that, it's on you.  
Also, recognize that at a T25, 85-90% of the kids are "highly qualified", so your 1580 and 4.0UW are nothing special---most kids meet the "academic threshold".  So it's on you to highlight yourself and why you should be attending.

For ex: at my kid's top Target (and where they ended up), there were 3 supplementals.  One gave the option to provide a video/photo collection, ideally of something you have great interest in, such as music/dance/artwork/etc.  My kid submitted a video of them dancing.  It was open ended, allows for creativity and sure as hell makes it more exciting for the AO watching it rather than reading "yet another essay".  I suspect anyone who submitted a video rather than just an essay gets a "leg up".  This is at a school that strongly encourages students to learn just for learning and to explore anything that interests them.  This "essay" is a way to highlight your creativity and show them you up close and personal.

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:lol:  :lol: 
the garbage people here accept. stockholm syndrome if ever there was one.

according to your own accounts, your own kids preferred other schools (reaches) to their targets. so THEY LIED that their targets and safeties were their #1 choices. and these inferior schools TEACH STUDENTS TO FAKE INTEREST in order to have a backup. sometimes you have to do it, but you people love it. yes, yes, my kid got in because he LIED WELL and your kid didn't because they relied on their "stats", you know, their talent and hardwork. you gotta learn to lie![/quote]

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