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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My oldest attended Ivies, and they were both jobless after graduation, and worked at Starbucks. My youngest DS was a D1 recruited athlete at UNC Chapel Hill, and he got a job in IB after graduation because the EVP was an alum at UNC. My DS was able to secure jobs for his older brother and sister because he contacted the EVP to help his siblings. Going to Ivies is not going to help you if you do not have the "right" connections. Therefore, in my children situation, it is a resounding NO. It is not how much you know but who you know, or who knows you.[/quote] UNC is ranked in the top 30...and with Duke, UVA, Stanford, and Vanderbilt it has a unique combination of top D1 athletics and prestige. Something also tells me that [b]the siblings wouldn't have been considered at all if they had attended say VCU[/b][/quote] PP here. My DS was also able to secure a spot in the IB division for one of his cousins who attended GMU, just like he did for his older siblings. FWIW, I am an SES Fed, and I routinely reject Ivies candidates over candidates who attended JMU, VCU, or VT. It is because I know their parents, and I want to help them out. As I've said before, it is not going to do you any good if you attend a prestigious university, but you do not build any connections when you are there. [/quote] Whaaat?! You’re using taxpayer $$$ on nepotism? This is literally a fireable offense. Not to mention that you’re depriving the government of better performing talent [/quote] +100, I’ve never seen someone so brazenly admit to something immoral just to make a point[/quote] I actually found it refreshing. I cant believe anyone here thinks network don't matter. It's human nature to go with known quanitities and I've both hired kids I sort of know of due to parents (who I believe were smart good kids) and I have asked my friends in industries my kid is in to look at their resume. My kid is super accomplished and cannot break into the big (ultra) leagues so I get people being angry but thank God we had contacts in the mid leagues so he is thriving. I'd like to know how kids from the non elite are getting into these places absent connections, I am witnessing that it does not happen, I dont see ANYONE getting in big places unless they are at the top 5 schools or parents have connections. Top 10 does not cut it. Wish it was otherwise.[/quote] I grew up poor. This is angering. I understand it’s refreshing for upper middle class DC types, but no, [b]your “network” isn’t a better fit for the workplace.[/b][/quote] That's your definition, but others think differently. Have you ever heard of "your net worth is your network"? "Network" is the most important thing during high school, college, and post college graduation. I've seen Ivy candidate's resumes get rejected because they do not have the right "connections" in both government and in the private sector. Life is NOT fair. FWIW, my DS attended Sidwell, and one of his best friends' father is the CIO at an F500 company. DS didn't even bother looking for jobs prior to college graduation. After traveling for six months post-graduation, DS called his buddy and he got a job two weeks after that from his buddy's (the CIO) father. [/quote] This is very unusual. Getting a job from your best friend's dad is awkward to say the least unless you were otherwise well qualified for the job. Unless you are blood relative, networks generally only respect competency.[/quote] +1[/quote]
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