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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Alexandria recently added a bunch of "no right on red" signs at almost every intersection from Old Town to Del Ray. It's bonkers. I say this as a pedestrian over half the time.

Good drivers were mindful before the signs. Signs don't stop bad drivers.

The signs do absolutely nothing regarding safety.[/quote]

Maybe drivers in Alexandria are special, but in my experience not in Alexandria, there are plenty of drivers who obey the no right on red signs. Not all, but a lot more than if there's no sign.

I agree that there are also plenty of drivers who ignore signs, which is why it takes more than just no right on red signs to make a crossing safe. But the no right on red signs do help.[/quote]

How does no right on red make crossing safe?  The whole point of right on red is that pedestrians are not supposed to be crossing the cross street when that light is green.[/quote]

That is incorrect. The 'whole point' of turning right on red was to save fuel, which it didn't.

Also, the "whole point" of turning on red was never that pedestrians should not be crossing, because you actually are not allowed to turn on red if pedestrians are present, you must always yield to pedestrians if turning on red. Also, you may not block a crosswalk, which you are doing if you are turning on red when pedestrians are present. A pedestrian on a corner may be crossing in front of you or where you are turning -- you don't get to assume which that may be. You yield.

So, these common misconceptions, are actually driver error and violations of the regulations, and because these misconceptions and errors are so very common and passed form ignorant parents to the new driving teens, it is best to make the law crystal clear for everyone by banning it.[/quote]

Yeah. I disagree. I have no problem banning it during certain hours, but there's not reason to ban it 24/7. There are so many new lights the past few years. No reason not to be allowed to turn right on red after 8 or 9pm. Mostly anyone adhering to the time window wouldn't be the reckless population this needs to target anyway. [/quote]

New lights are put in when incidents at those intersections become frequent (particularly if they are no fault accidents), which means they are high risk intersections. Also, 8 or 9 at night is when drivers can't see pedestrians, but people are still out and about walking home from metro, kids walking home from sports games or theater practice, people walking home from restaurants, bars, etc. [/quote]

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