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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's a great conference. No schools in it that aren't at least really solid. For overall academic quality, I'd tier it out like this:

Tier 1: NU, UCLA, UMich
Tier 2: Wisconsin, Washington, USC
Tier 3: Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers
Tier 4: IU, Michigan State
Tier 5: Iowa, Oregon, Nebraska

Obviously, there's a lot of variability across programs. The schools I put in Tier 3, for example, all have specific programs that clearly are first-tier.[/quote]Good list.  But you need to break out the Tier 1.  NU is way above UCLA and UMIch.  It's in a category by itself for academics when compared to BIG10 schools[/quote]It's not. Some of its programs are great, others are merely very good--just like UCLA and Michigan.[/quote]Nope, vast majority of NU programs are better.  It's a T10 school.  UCLA and Michigan are not T10 material.  It's also a 6-7K undergrad and private school.  So obviously different than a massive state school in what it can offer. [/quote]If you're not just bloviating, identify the specific NU programs that are stronger than their UCLA and Michigan counterparts. I'll spot you journalism, but what else do you have? Seriously, I'll wait. NU's strengths around radio/film/TV/theatre fall short of UCLA's. Its engineering can't touch Michigan's. Across the pure academic departments, NU's faculty is no stronger than either UCLA's or Michigan's. Some kids benefit more from a smaller environment, for sure, but that's a question of fit, not of quality.[/quote]

journalism, Music, Theater to name a few

Classes are smaller for almost everything else at NU (outside of freshman Chem which has always been large) More opportunities to do research as an undergrad, largely due to smaller school.

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+1.

Chemistry, econ also stronger at NU than either of the two publics.[/quote]

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