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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"They also make it pretty clear that if you don’t go to both days of tryouts that it reduces the likelihood of making a team." How the heck can folks fit in tryouts for more than one team with that requirement?[/quote] The whole process doesn't make any sense. Its especially confusing for new parents. A better process would be to stretch out tryouts over a week or two time frame giving clubs and players an opportunity to evaluate and see who's a good fit. All clubs send out offer emails the following day after tryout week. Monday morning 8am etc... Give parents and player 48 hours to decide. Boom, done, simple. The tryout rules are governed by CHRVA not the clubs. It's my 3rd year of this madness. This weekend will be brutal for girls who have their hopes up to make a specific team or make a team at all. Good Luck![/quote] I don’t understand what the “simple” part is in your ideal description. Don’t you realize that clubs would just send out their offer emails to the same 12 girls? Then what?…they get 48 hours to decide while your DD has no offers and waits until the next round of offers? And then does round 2 get 48 hours to decide as well? What if a player accepts an offer when it comes in the second round but then in round three, she finally gets an offer from a club she really wants that still has a spot? Can she change her mind? The system they have is imperfect, but your proposal is a nightmare.[/quote] +1. That proposal would be awful. My DD and her friends went to 5-9 tryouts over that weekend. They were all trying for open level or national teams. It was a terrible weekend and we knew it would be. Stretching it out over a longer period of time would have these girls going to even more tryouts, out of fear that they wouldn’t have a spot anywhere. Even with 5-9 tryouts in that short amount of time, everyone we know can away with 0-2 options. So don’t say they went to too many. Every girl went to some lower level clubs too. I wouldn’t want to stretch this out over two weeks. [/quote] Like one parent said the clinics are basically pre vetting 100% correct. And the try outs aren't really try outs they throw 100 girls on a court at time. You can't truly evaluate players in that short amount of time and especially with overcrowding. It's like having 200 guys on the basketball court and saying go for it, let me see what you got. Some girls don't know positions or understand rotations. Stretching the time period out would allow for a more comprehensive evaluation. That's the point I'm trying to make. Having them wait two weeks vs two days is reasonable. New parents after your first tryout experience this weekend. Come back and post here, provide your honest thoughts on what you think of the evaluation process. [/quote] I wish the coaches would provide honest feedback during / after the pre-tryout clinics. We've never had honest feedback even though we always tried to figure out whether my DD has any chance of making a team at various clubs. All the answers we received were sugar coated and ended with something along the line "you will never know unless you try out." This happens even at the top clubs, where the coaches watch you for five minutes and can tell that you have no chance whatsoever to make any of their teams. We saw exactly the same approach every single year since my DD started playing volleyball. The coaches encourage everyone to sign up for tryouts no matter how many left hands you have. Then they end up at the tryout with a bunch of players with rec-level skill, which they discard on the bottom court and they pay no attention to. I feel like this is extremely unethical and they do it just to brag about how many players show up at the tryouts. I watched the coaches during pre-tryout clinics collecting a lot of data on each player and I think they use that data to make their lives easier during tryouts, when they already know who has a chance and who doesn't. Unfortunately, players and parents are not offered any insight into that data - they simply learn during the tryouts that they had no chance to begin with. I wish I could better read this sugar-coated language that the coaches use. Many posts here suggest that coaches use more positive / warmer feedback, in line with "I would really want you to play on one of our teams" for players they would get on their teams. That might be code for "you have no problem receiving and offer after the tryouts." We've never heard that from any coach, which might speak volumes why we didn't have successful tryouts at top clubs. It is not clear what language the coaches use for players who are almost there, but not quite. I wish they could use some more quantitative measures to tell you "The bottom player who made one of our teams last season was at 70%, comparatively your DD is at 30%." Parents could decide to show up for tryouts if their DD is at 60%, but not even bother at 50% or lower. I agree that it would be a little more work for the coaches: they would have to get all the data aggregated (probably an Excel sheet would do it), but it would make everyone's life so much better. I would be willing to pay for this data rather than pay a lot more for the tryout and waste time showing up.[/quote] Bingo, well stated. New parents warning! Bring a lawn chair to sit in you'll have to wait in long lines to speak with the coaches about your DD "evaluation". Then rush to the next try out if you have others that day. A simple email to athletes on Monday would avoid this headache. [/quote]
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