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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree with his core premise—- it’s much better , in most cases, for a child to be raised by parents/grandparents vs daycare. Universal daycare is what is eww in this discussion. [/quote]

I do too.  Totally.

I would also like to point out that this audio is clearly edited... who knows what is spliced or missing.  And, it is an article from Salon, so that makes it even more questionable. 
Having said that, if advocating for having a grandparent assist with the care of a newborn infant is misogynistic, call me a misogynist.  I like when he pointed out that she could have just continued working and given some of her salary to help them out, but she chose to help with the care itself.  
And, I say this as someone who is currently in this exact position.... and I'm not Indian.  A grandmother who is lucky enough to help with the care of her grandchild during the critical first years of development.  I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.  [/quote]

+100
It's beyond telling that liberals are objecting to his point - that having a grandparent care for your kids is a wonderful thing.  My own mom did something very similar and we all benefitted from it.  My kids grew so close to her and didn't have to attend daycare.  Bonus all around.[/quote]
I mean, many millions of people have had help from grandparents for generations. Why is it a political stance now and why is it partisan? Why are Republicans even talking about this? If they're not talking about a policy decision related to it that could benefit families, then they just need to get off this subject. There are two wars going on and could they discuss health care, environmental or housing  issues, perhaps? Maybe choose not to be a guest on podcasts and shows that can't get beyond these family issues? They won't.[/quote]

Quit gaslighting. He sat there and had the discussion.  He didn’t change the subject, shut it down, or indicate he disagreed with the premise. He jumped right on in.

And, cry harder.  Your guy is a deeply creepy weirdo with a menstrual fetish.

Also, maybe I can’t fathom that because I’m a post-menopausal woman without grandkids. Thus, I am dried up, and have little to no societal value because I am unable   to fulfill my primary role in JD Vance’s dystopian world view. If he had his way, I’d be a Martha, an Aubt or sent to the colonies.

I have no value or role according to Vance. I guess he missed the part where in a voter from NC. Which makes me pretty important this election. Maybe insulting me wasn’t his best idea (although maybe not his worst either— he has so many terrible takes).

In related news, at a minimum, JD Vance thought engaging in a discussion about the societal value/ proper role  of “post menopausal woman” was appropriate. Unless you want to point to where he said women are complex people with many roles that benefit society? (He do not say this).

As if whether I bleed and how often is his business or in anyway defines my worth as a human.  His fascination with all things menstrual is, well, WEIRD, in a put your hand on the pepper spray and cross the street way.

And- I had two kids, now in their early 20s and this pisses me off. How do you think this plays with infertile women, and childless car ladies? As HRC showed us, insulting the electorate is a very bad idea. And Trump/JD needs UMc suburban Gen X and Boomer to win.  Believe me, he is losing my demo in droves.

He isn’t playing 4D chess. Or discussing serious policy positions— because the GoP is against the policy positions that would make us possible for parents and grandparents to take time off to care for kids— like paid parental leave and the child tax credit.  If he was serious about this as a policy position and not just pandering to incels, there would be actual policy proposals. (Narrators voice: the GOP has no such policy proposals).

Pound sand. Ask JD to do the same— if you can get him to quit pounding sofas. [/quote]

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