Toggle navigation
Toggle navigation
Home
DCUM Forums
Nanny Forums
Events
About DCUM
Advertising
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics
FAQs and Guidelines
Privacy Policy
Your current identity is: Anonymous
Login
Preview
Subject:
Forum Index
»
DC Public and Public Charter Schools
Reply to "BASIS charter expansion is up for public comment"
Subject:
Emoticons
More smilies
Text Color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Violet
White
Black
Font:
Very Small
Small
Normal
Big
Giant
Close Marks
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm surprised by the number of people who sent their kid to BASIS and seemingly had no idea what their kid was in for. The building is a prison with no fields. The crazy curriculum is openly shared. The lack of gym, etc., is obvious. Why would you have lotteried there in the first place? Were you dumb? Did you really not have a Plan B if you couldn't get into Latin? What kind of idiots are you people?[/quote] They're not effective teachers and can't produce a happy well-balanced successful kid to save their lives, but as a for-profit they know how to market to rubes—and taxpayer pick up the bill![/quote] Found the WTA rep. Maybe move to North Korea--you would be happier there. USNW&R ranks 11 BASIS schools in the top 100 in the United States out of nearly 25,000 schools, and a BASIS school is ranked #1 in the whole country (with TJ in Fairfax ranked #14). So, yeah, I think that the people running BASIS know a lot more than you than running a school network. But you certainly know how to run your mouth off. [url]https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings[/url] [/quote] DP. Couple things about BASIS in the rankings. All other BASIS schools are test-in, so that already makes their situation much different than all other schools except other test ins. But more importantly, BASIS structures their policies to affect their ranking. For example, US News gives a lot of weight to how many seniors have taken and passed at least one AP. BASIS does not allow their students to advance to senior year if they have not met this metric, so they always have 100/100, because they don’t allow kids to get to senior year if they don’t meet this. Also, from my perspective, the people running *BASIS DC* are the problem. BASIS DC has actually dropped in the rankings year over year. They plummeted another 200 down this year and their PARCC scores have gotten worse. BASIS’s reaction to this was to cancel all electives for two weeks so they could do extensive test prep. This is the kind of thing that people are talking about when they say BASIS cares more about BASIS looking good than they do about student happiness/mental health/well-being. [/quote] In the current USN&WR rankings, BASIS DC is currently the #1 public middle school in DC, #1 charter school in DC, and #1 non-selective public high school in DC. They seem to be doing fine. https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/middle-schools/district-of-columbia https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/district-of-columbia/rankings And, btw, requiring a 3 on a single AP test in high school is not "gaming" the rankings. Any kid that can't pull a 3 on a single AP test shouldn't be there.[/quote] Requiring a 3 and not allowing a student to advance if they don't achieve it is absolutely "gaming" the rankings. It ensures that on one of the most important metrics, you are guaranteed 100% of the points, not because you actually taught the students to the point that they all got a 3, but because you prevented those who got a 3 from being counted in your stats. Here, because you love US News so much, the national rankings: TJ: #14 School Without Walls: #68 Benjamin Banneker: #96 Walt Whitman: #139 Langley: #148 Wootton: #196 Oakton: #199 McLean: #218 ... BASIS DC: #400 Note that none of those other schools are playing games with the US News stats. [/quote] Incorrect. 1) BASIS students start taking AP exams in 8th grade and many take over a dozen AP exams; plus they are taking annual comprehensive exams in school starting in 6th grade. Getting a 3 on one AP exam is not difficult. No one fails to graduate from BASIS DC because they didn’t get a 3 on a single exam. If you think kids are being told that they can’t graduate because they failed to get a 3 on an AP exam, you are dead wrong. You realize that for many AP exams, around 50% of test takers get at least a 3? This is a very low bar. 2) You are contradicting your own argument. If requiring a 3 on a single AP is “gaming” the system, then why does USN&WR rank BASIS DC below the schools you list? Obviously, that is not a significant factor. 3) DCPS doesn’t even require a single AP test. Yet 100 % of students at Walls take at least one AP exam and 99% of students there get at least a 3. In fact, you can’t graduate from Walls without taking a least a couple of AP exams. Is Walls “gaming” the system? Ridiculous. Similarly, 100% of BASIS students take an exam and 100% get at least a 3. Even if Basis followed the DCPS/Walls system, you would see similar numbers. 4) At Banneker, 100% of students take an AP exam and only 73% get at least a 3. Yet USN&WR ranks Banneker above BASIS DC. So, again, obviously the AP factor is not that significant. 5) At some of the schools you mention, a significant chunk of students don’t take any AP exam or if they do they don’t get a 3 on at least one. At McLean High, for example, a quarter of students don’t take any AP exams at all and, of those that do, about 30% never get a 3. Yet, for some reason, McLean is ranked above BASIS DC. So, obviously, the AP factor is not that significant. 6) Finally, you are comparing a 100%, all-DC lottery school to high schools that select their students such as Walls and Banneker and schools in the burbs that just draw from their wealthy neighborhoods. Using your twisted logic, you could argue that Walls and Banneker “prevented” low-scoring kids from being counted in their stats by cherry picking the best students they could or rich suburban schools similarly “prevented” low-scoring kids from being counted in their stats by not letting in out-of-bounds kids. So, you are not really making an apples-to-apples comparison. And, in any event, you are ignoring the fact that the only two schools you listed where 100% of the students took an AP test and scored at least a 3 are TJ (a selective school in a high-performing area) and BASIS DC. [/quote]
Options
Disable HTML in this message
Disable BB Code in this message
Disable smilies in this message
Review message
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics