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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You both don't need to be Catholic. [b]One of you should be[/b] and also registered at the church or a church that his family is registered at. You can't just waltz into any church and demand a wedding ceremony. You will need to be registered parishioners, or use his family church, and complete the wedding prep (Pre-Cana), and just jump through all the hoops. But your post is very off putting all about you, and what you want. You're supposed to be getting married, it's not all about you.[/quote] No. One of them must be Catholic to be married in a Catholic church.[/quote] Well, the fiancé is. But the point in this case is that the fiancé is Catholic enough to meet the criteria. But he is not practicing and might say he's not Catholic. But if he was raised Catholic he's been baptized, had his Communion and is confirmed. As far as the Church is concerned, he's Catholic. [/quote] Yes, the fiancé is Catholic. The point you’re ignoring is the first pp said one [i]should[/i] be Catholic. There’s no [i]should[/i] about it with the Catholic church. That’s a [b]must[/b]. [/quote] I said that. Then I clarified. [b]I said "should" because most people getting married in the Church are there because they want to be, they are in good standing[/b]. The fiancé is Catholic, being born and raised, but seems now to be lapsed. If you're lapsed should you still consider yourself Catholic?[/quote] You are making zero sense. There is no [i]should[/i] about it with a Catholic wedding. It’s a must or there’s no Catholic wedding. [/quote] [b]He is a Catholic in the eyes of the church[/b]. We know this. But, how he identifies is another thing. Which goes back to OP's point that should they just go along with it for appeasement or is it a mockery? They can have the Catholic wedding, but should they?[/quote] That’s all that matters if he wants to be married in a Catholic church. What’s a mockery is OP’s suggestion of lying. [/quote] [b]You act as if it's so easy to get married in the church[/b]. An indifferent, non-practicing couple still has to meet certain criteria. Maybe it's church attendance, pre-cana, meetings with the priest, good standing, before they will be allowed to book their date. It varies. It's not just "does the one person meet the basic criteria". Sounds like they already have a date and venue for their non religious wedding. Trying to plan a Catholic ceremony into an existing timeline might be a huge hurdle.[/quote] Nope. You’re inventing something never said. I only commented that 1 person must be Catholic not should be Catholic. [b]If you don’t meet the minimum of one person being Catholic,[/b] the rest of what you wrote is irrelevant because there is no chance of a Catholic wedding.[/quote] No chance? Hardly. A non practicing Catholic who has no intention of raising their kids Catholic can still have one if their parents set it all up.[/quote] Bolded the part you failed to read. Parents can’t set up a wedding if the kid wasn’t Catholic. [/quote] Obviously the parents would be doing this at their church. Do you now how any of this works? If fiancé had never set foot in that church the parents could still set it up. That's the point.[/quote] No. It really isn’t the point. A Catholic has the canonical right to receive sacraments, including matrimony, in the Church of their residential parish, if they are “properly disposed” as discussed in prior posts. Any other Catholic Church needs to communicate and coordinate with the residential parish before having a wedding there. This happens all the time. Parties may be extremely active Catholics at, for example, a non-parish Shrine or a religious order house, but have no real connection to the residential parish. Or they may want to marry where the parents reside and attend Mass. it is certainly not insurmountable, but the paperwork has to be in order. The priest also has to be convinced that the parties intend a valid, Sacramental, marriage. In OP’s case, there seems significant doubt that she has any interest in or intention toward “Christian” (Catholic) marriage. Even her prospective husband’s intentions are less than clear in that regard since he seems more concerned with appearance than substance. The parents could certainly try to intercede with the priest, but he still needs to be morally convinced that the couple presenting themselves for marriage intend what the Church intends. OP’s case is very different from the situation of two baptized and strongly cultural Catholics who may not be religiously sophisticated or regulars at Mass, but nonetheless present with an objective hope of founding a Catholic home.[/quote]
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