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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a PP above said: most current students never speak of "loving" their time at Princeton. Princeton becomes more fun and memorable [b]after[/b] they leave as evidenced by the re-unions. In fact the enthusiasm for the reunions gives me the impression of a group that has been through some "tough" social and academic trenches and now, on some level, realize the difficult experience didn't really matter in the grand scheme of life. [/quote]

This is just nuts.  Maybe you're a Princeton alum who didn't have a great experience.  It happens, and some graduates are candid about it.  Or maybe you're just conjuring it this theory for whatever reason.

But, overall, students who don't have a good experience at a school don't turn into loyal alumni.  They collect their diplomas and move on.

In comparison, Princeton alumni go back (in large numbers for major reunions), wear ridiculous orange and black beer jackets, and revel in songs about "the best damn place of all."  Not because it was college boot camp, but because they have good memories and want to return to campus.  And there's a poster on this very thread speaking to what a great experience her son, a recent graduate, had there.

The recent student deaths are concerning.  Most of the students were Asian, and Princeton reportedly has the second-highest percentage of Asian undergraduates among the Ivies.  If they need to do something to better equip those students (and all entering students) to deal with setbacks once on campus, they should look for a way to do it.  But you don't eliminate academic rigor simply because some students are used to only getting As their entire lives.  [/quote]

My spouse went to Princeton and LOVED the the time there.  They had to WORK and were constantly in the library, but it gave them a good work ethic and understanding that they won't always be #1 at everything, but to still work hard at it anyway.

We go back for reunions and some of our closest friends are spouse's friends from their time at Princeton.  They are all great people doing interesting things and always willing to help or network you with someone if need be. They aren't all consultants and in finance.  :D When I was back for an event recently and used any restroom, once you shut the door they had #s if you were assaulted or needed medical or mental health help.

I think part of the issue is that students are used to being #1 at their schools and MANY high schools are giving out As left and right to make parents happy and so that their students get into these top schools.  When you go to a place like Princeton or Yale or Harvard or MIT, etc you won't be the smartest person in the room anymore.  Some people can't handle that or are taught that from their parents.

I did not attend an Ivy, but attended a top university and another top university for graduate school.  I had a not great childhood and learned about RESILIENCE.  I learned that I needed to work hard. I also had an issue in undergrad for one semester.  I spoke to my Dean and was able to get an extension and saw a therapist on campus every week.  I had to ask for help and be the one to say, I am having these issues outside of school and need extra support because it is impacting my schoolwork and mental health.  I had to advocate for myself, as an adult.  I ended up being fine, but at some point you can't read someones mind, and you need to ask for help if you need it.

I also think social media has made things so much worse for kids. You can't make a mistake without someone recording it.  You look online and see fancy vacations and happy lives even though 90% of that is fake.  I am so grateful I did not grow up in the time of social media and all this fentanyl, but I worry for my kids and what life will look like for them. [/quote]

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