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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here — I came from a heavy drinking family and culture. Several close relatives and family friends owned and managed bars while I was growing up. Consequently, i spent a lot of time in bars even as a child. I saw people who didn’t have a problem, and people who said they didn’t have a problem. I’m not opposed to drinking. I’m just fascinated by the concept of dry January (be it alcohol or cannabis or … shopping). I’m Catholic so abstaining from something is not a foreign concept to me, so adding dry January sometimes seems like a repetitive concept. I rarely drink to the point that some friends/neighbors (not all) in the DMV make a point to say something that I’m having a drink. It’s weird because I don’t think of myself as a non-drinker but I guess it’s all relative when I have a drink maybe 4x a year and friends have a drink or more every week.

Again the thing that struck me was how many people (my age and younger) in the conversation said that dry January would be a struggle. I would not have beeen surprised if they were boomers or older.  Although I shouldn’t have been surprised since [b]COVID closures didn’t negatively affect ABC stores [/b]and takeout alcohol restrictions were relaxed.[/quote]

That’s because actual alcoholics account for something like 80% of alcohol sales. Liquor stores weren’t closed specifically because we didn’t need our ERs full of withdrawing alcoholics. It wasn’t because of the wine moms. I can’t believe how many people still don’t understand this.[/quote]

Hon, a significant minority of Wine Moms actually have alcohol use disorder.  see especially 4, 9 and 10.  Preening around in your Golden Goose shoes doesn't mean you're not an alcoholic

https://www.medscape.com/answers/285913-41535/what-are-the-dsm-5-criteria-for-%20alcohol-use-disorder?form=fpf[/quote]

Sorry but no matter how much you wish it was true, and how jealous you are of their expensive sneakers, these are not the people who get the DTs and go to the ER when they can’t get ahold of alcohol. If wine moms were the only people who consumed alcohol the liquor stores would’ve been closed during Covid along with everything else. You’re welcome for the public health lesson! :)[/quote]

One of us worked in ER / ICU during the height of the pandemic and the other one did not.  One of us — okay, it’s me — is a clinician with years of schooling and so doesn’t fall for the red herring that an essential diagnostic criterion for AUD is delerium tremens.

Yes, package stores stayed open per DOH to avert widespread acute  withdrawals for those at risk for cardiac consequences of unsupervised withdrawal

Doesn’t mean a lot of Wine Moms in my orbit aren’t clearly dependent on their substance and meet criteria for alcohol use disorder.

You’re welcome, Caitlin[/quote]

Oh a dr who is not an expert acting like an expert in everything medical. Please you ER drs get so many things wrong it’s surprising many of you still are drs. But as long as you’re just stupid and it’s not neglect.

Anyway check out SAMSA there are many stages of unhealthy drinking before you’re an addict.

Your welcome, Felicia!
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