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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running.  Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record.  Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process.  But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.[/quote]

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas. [/quote]

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people[/quote]

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.  [/quote]

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way[/quote]

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.[/quote]

This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take. [/quote]

Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.[/quote]

This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.[/quote]

Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?[/quote]

These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.[/quote]

That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.[/quote]

Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise. [/quote]

I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.[/quote]
NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on. [/quote]
PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.[/quote]

Both sides can be wrong at the same time. Pointing out weakness on one side doesn’t mean condoning or excusing the other  side. Refusal to allow it to be said has a name. What  is that called again?[/quote]

One side is clearly far more wrong than the other.  If you don't understand that, then you should watch more CSPAN.  While the Democrats have been fighting for a functional government, the Republicans have been on the House and Senate floor wasting time peddling one ludicrous and unserious thing after another, whether ignorant destructive attempts to destroy our government with bills to defund the IRS, the NIH, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the EPA and other agencies, to destroy public education while promoting sham for-profit schools, peddling science denial and everything else.

There is no "both sides" - the Republican side is objectively worse.  And, this Republican funded and sponsored "no labels" nonsense is just a vote for more of that deranged destruction.[/quote]

This is just delusional. If you need more votes, you should be listening to others and gaining their trust. Instead, you want to browbeat them into your trite viewpoint, when many tell you that viewpoint is so long in the tooth.

Again, this kind of simple-mindedness looks like a pro-Trump false flag! Let’s make sure the Democrats keep their appeal limited! Let’s treat the fate of hundreds of millions of Americans (and billions more worldwide) as a stupid binary game of the Tweedle Dee mafia (Dems) versus the Tweedle Dumb mafia (Repubs). At this point, it should be obvious that lazy paradigm has failed us.[/quote]

And this is the nonsense that will put the traitorous fascist outright criminal back in power.[/quote]
I agree. We need to focus on finding one candidate to rally around that will guarantee us a victory over Trump. The sad thing is, as beatable as Trump is, there isn't a single candidate that has announced a 2024 presidential run that is currently favored to beat Trump in a head to head match-up. If America can't find a candidate to beat Trump in 2024, what exactly is our future?[/quote]

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