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I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

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Are you really trying to say that kids who don’t test well are lazy or something? Take your asinine theory and shove it. [/quote]

I don’t think they’re lazy. I just don’t think they should be able to rely on litigious parents who use bulldozer tactics to knock down natural barriers that were designed to match capacity with suitable opportunity.[/quote]

Well la di da for you.  Colleges removed those barriers because they realized it was NOT the best indicator of success at their university.  Colleges are happy with how they select students.  Nobody is attempting to create a class with all 1600/4.0UW/10AP+ students---they could yet somehow nobody wants that.  Perhaps because they know something...[/quote]

There are less than 1,000 1600/4.0UW/10AP+ students in any graduating class.

If you throw in ACT scores of 36, it's still less than 2,500.

2,500 prospects for 65,000 T20 seats in their collective freshman class.

That's one of the major problems here. Too many of you believe the fabricated nonsense that the 1600/36 + 4.00 unweighted + 10 AP+ unicorn is a dime a dozen; when in fact, they are less than enough to fit even 5% of the incoming classes for T20 programs. And if you limited it to single attempts for the ACT/SAT, it's more like less than 2% of the incoming classes.[/quote]

But I'd rather have the 1520/3.9UW/8AP+ who has stellar ECs and/or stellar volunteering and recommendations.  I want someone who is going to be a game changer and make a difference in the world.  And I don't think the80 point difference and not perfect gpa means they are "any less".  In fact plenty of them are much more what the schools want.  Hence why they are fine with TO.

The real issue is that some of you as parents have spent the last 18 years telling your kid that the key to success is a 4.0 and 1600 and now when you realize it's not quite that you feel cheated.  It never was that---it was just you wanting to believe it.

The T25 schools are not accepting "losers" when they turn down your "perfect kid". They are accepting who they think will be the better game changer.    Look around you in real life.  Highly doubt you work with only people from T25 schools or only people who had 1580+ on their SATs eons ago. Your boss might just be the 1100/2.8 kid who went to state U ranked 200, yet now they are managing you and getting paid more. Why?  Because where you go does not matter, nearly as much as what you do while there.

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