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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you study the achievement gap, you’ll know that high school isn’t the issue. Neither is calculus. Neither is TJ (although whether we should have public, selective high schools and what their admission process should be is a separate and valid issue). The problem is in the early grades. Plus nobody believes advanced calculus is the ticket to great wealth. [/quote] Sorry, but if you add in early childhood research the pattern is set before age 2. By age 2 Hispanic children are the same a white in socialization but behind in vocabulary (in home language). There are initiatives to teach parents patterns of interaction that raise this (serve and return conversations etc) It is set very very early and the gap is there well before Kindergarten.[/quote] Sorry, not sorry. And not convinced by your weak argument. For decades, pols pushed for more money to be thrown at expensive “head start” programs. The money’s been spent, but it has not meaningfully changed things. So your premise is faulty.[/quote] Research. I don’t care about your opinion. I’m sure you don’t trust science, but here is the research. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543291/ Here are the findings since you will not bother to read it: As has been suggested by others, children with greater vocabulary may be better able to regulate their behavior using self-talk or mental symbolic representations to control their impulses (Barkley, 1997; Vallotton & Ayoub, 2011). It is also possible that children who use more words are better able to express themselves and have a better sense of control in their environment, leading to less frustration accompanied by better growth in inhibitory control skills (Vallotton & Ayoub, 2011). The findings from the present study suggest that interventions aimed at improving school readiness skills for Spanish-speaking Hispanic children should start early and target early verbal abilities in the child’s home language. I am not talking about money, but how different cultures talk to their infants that in part make the achievement gap. That you are ignorant of early childhood research doesn’t make my premise faulty. That said, the biggest predictor of a child’s achievement in school is maternal income. Guess what Dobbs just did- took more women out of the workforce. SO if you are upset about money, you should know that the R’s just considerably widened the achievement gap and it will take more money to be pro-life. Glad you only get one vote- yours and mine cancel each other out!!! [/quote] Your post flails about, but ultimately makes little sense. Federal head start programs do not work, and the research proves that fact: https://www.cato.org/blog/us-government-our-head-start-program-doesnt-work[/quote] Hilarious - quoting a Cato Institute blog post as "fact" is like quoting Vladimir Putin on Ukrainian History. So folks know how bad that Cato drive-by-shooting is, it's two "sources" are a dead link and - crack me up - the New York POST! I'm laughing so hard I might just pee myself![/quote] It’s a symptom of the rampant astroturfing in NoVA. [/quote]
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