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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Only MAGA supports Israel and the safety of the Jewish people.[/quote]

Except when it comes to passing funding?[/quote]

Are you unhappy with the 12 billion package MAGA will deliver?  Does the IRS cut bother you?

Or you could have a clean 12 billion bill and a side of Jew hatred.

Place your bets and votes.[/quote]

Does the deficit matter or not? Because the IRS cut will lead to a blowup of the deficit. [/quote]

You don’t actually understand the details? You just rehash what you read?

So do you actually think we are cutting the 12 billion from the IRS?

Its actually IRS budget was increased in 2022  via IRA by 80 billion!!!!!!!!

So if you cut 12 billion from the 80 billion, tou still get an increased IRS budget of 68 billion over what it was in 2022.  So yeah, don’t be dramatic.[/quote]

But here’s the problem.  For every dollar you cut for the IRS, the revenue the usg brings in is cut by an ADDITIONAL $6.  Over time that makes quite a difference to the deficit, which does need to be addressed.

Cutting IRS funding is not the way to reduce the deficit.  Better to cut other subsidies (ag, fossil fuel). [/quote]

Again,

You are not cutting anything!  You are  just increasing the budget over 2022 levels by 68 billion instead of 80 billion!!!!

[b]Your “facts” refer to is you cut the budget of the IRS for the base 2022 levels, and you still need to provide source of that claim.[/b]

A 68 billion increase will be jus refine.  In fact, they have not even hired 1/10 of the additional agents for the IRS at this point as it’s hard to recruit thousands of new employees.

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Pp here.  I’m going to try one more time.

I actually understand how you arrived at your belief - and I’ll stick with the numbers you’re using.  On the surface, it seems correct.  If we are spending $68 billion instead of $80 billion, and using that remaining $12 billion for Israel, everything should be funky dory.

But.  Here’s the catch.  That $12 billion in the Johnson scenario goes out the door (like a Friday night out - the money is gone - except if you are a defense contractor, in which case it’s going into your personal pocket).

In the scenario where the $12 billion goes to the IRS, the agency uses that money, not only to hire more employees, but also to upgrade computer systems, install AI programs that can identify anomalies, and so forth which results in more revenue for the USG (like exercising which leads to better health).

As for the source of my facts, I refer you to the CBO report.  https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2023-11/CBO_Estimate_for_the_Israel_Security_Supp_Approp_Act_2024.pdf[/quote]

Ok,

So you still don’t get it “buddy”.  And it seems that you won’t actually understand this either.

The budget of the IRS was about 12 billion in 2021.

https://www.taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/ARC21_PurpleBook_01_StrengthRights_2.pdf

The IRA added 80 BILLION to their budget.  80 billion!!!!!!!

So now if they give 12 billion of that to Israel, the the IRS budget is still 68 billion more than it was!!!!!!! They are not taking anything away from their original 12 billion budget.

And to provide details, that 80 billion was over 10 years. So basically giving the IRS budge a boost from 12 billion per year to 20 billion.   Now take 12 billion from the 80 billion INCREASE, you still get a yearly increase of 6.8 billion per year.

So current IRS budget - 12 Billion

New IRS budget with 12 billion in aid going to Israel - 12 billion (original budget) + 6.8 billion from IRA = 18.8 billion.

So IRS budget goes from 12 to 18.8 billion even with Israel aid.  Does not look like a cut to me?

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Seems to me the math in your scenario is off.

If the IRS budget is 12 billion, and they are getting 80 billion over 10 years that means 8 billion per year.  It DOES NOT mean they get a lump sum of 80 billion that they then can sit on like a dragon hoarding gold.  
What it means is their budget becomes 12 billion + 8 billion, which is 20 billion.  Now, if you take 12 billion of that and give it to Israel, that means their next year budget went from 12 billion to 8 billion.  So it is in fact a cut for the coming year.  And before you go on about "Yabut their budget will go up to 20 the following year" there are in fact no such guarantees, particularly as Congress monkeys with the budget every single year.[/quote]

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