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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I work in education and people who came of age and were still in K-12 or college during COVID are developmentally stunted. They don't seem to have coping or problem solving skills and ignore deadlines and have trouble taking initiative.[/quote]

We’re moving school districts next summer and are holding our daughter back - she’s young for her class and has diagnosed learning disabilities, and covid was a huge challenge to her learning.

I don’t know why it’s so difficult for people to acknowledge the intense trauma we all experienced.  Just because some of us coped better or were less materially affected does not invalidate other people’s experiences.  I guess that’s another fun legacy of covid: a notable decrease in empathy and compassion.  Ironically.[/quote]

But so much if it was self inflicted. That doesn’t make everyone a victim. People went way overboard and now have to suffer the consequences.[/quote]

NP. You highlight what has caused is shift in my worldview from which I am having trouble recovering. You think that people went "overboard" by following public health advice, taking COVID seriously as a health risk, and trying to do their part to avoid spreading it when certain members of the community were at greater risk. Your "overboard" was my trying to be a decent human being. The new narrative is that any fallout from restricted activities or isolation was self-inflicted and, therefore, not worth acknowledging or addressing.

I'll say that my view of "experts" in various realms has become increasingly distrustful. This is particularly true with those in public health and education, where experts offered assurances that were solely focused on maintaining desired outcomes without honest acknowledgment or discussion of potential long-term consequences. [/quote]

At some point common sense should have been restored. Some of the measures and actions were ridiculous and should have been obvious. Children never needed to be banned from playgrounds, masks weren’t needed on solo runs in suburban neighborhoods. I lived in a place where police were called on kids playing at a park. So we moved. A whole lot of this never made much sense and shockingly a lot of people blindly followed along and gleefully shamed their neighbors who weren’t in lock step. It’s hard to muster sympathy now.[/quote]
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"Common sense" was restored when we had vaccines.[/b]

Your lust for punishing people who "took COVID seriously" is noted. I get psychopathy vibes from you.[/quote]

The self-appointed covid police were still loudly shaming well past vaccines being out and the only reason anyone went back to school was laws were passed (in VA at least) and our kids still spent part of that year wearing masks (aka chin straps/napkins/tissues).  Please note I am not anti-mask I am anti-useless masks worn improperly by young children as virtue signaling.  Always have been.

It wasn't common sense.  You got forced and outnumbered eventually.[/quote]

And the self-proclaimed COVID experts who denied that it existed or denied precautionary measures worked, were loudly shaming those who chose to act cautiously. Or bi---ing about private institutions covid policies. AD NAUSEUM. I had to witness some vapid, ignorant Karen lecture the 18 year old receptionist at my hair salon (this was MAYBE late 2020 and they required masks and spacing) about her scientific analysis and why Fauci was a terrorist. Took every ounce of me not to tell that B to STFU and move along. Which is what the admin told her, albeit much more nicely than I would have.

Unless you are an expert. Unless you understand the scientific process. I simply do no give a flying rat's F what you thought or think now (with 20/20) about Covid or Covid policy. [/quote]

No one needs to be an expert to see what covid policy did to kids.  Widely reported data.  If you don't have kids, it's still very much our collective problem.  It affects all of us.[/quote]

Actually, I do and are unaffected. Lots are unaffected and any issues are not just "covid policy" during that time. BTW, Covid policy developed in real time due to a fast-moving and changing situation. And again, unless you're an expert, STFU. [/quote]

Is this enough expertise for you?
https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/news/23/05/new-data-show-how-pandemic-affected-learning-across-whole-communities
Op-Ed from researchers on this study that summarizes:  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/pandemic-learning-losses-steep-but-not-permanent.html

But glad your kids are unaffected.[/quote]

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