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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most people with any basic knowledge of diet and nutrition don't believe in CICO [/quote]

Most people with any basic knowledge of thermodynamics and closed loop systems do…[/quote]

Biology isn’t physics. No one who understands biology would say something as stupid as this. But many people can’t tell the difference. [/quote]

IME most people who understand physics understand biology, and most people who understand biology do NOT understand physics.[/quote]

Nope.[/quote]

You’re right.  Most people who claim to understand biology don’t actually understand biology either, and this thread is a perfect illustration.

But I am sure all of the overweight ladies of America would still pack on the pounds even in a famine, because… hormones?  PCOS?  Whatever, it’s not your fault you’re fat, that’s the key takeaway for those who “understand” biology  :roll: [/quote]

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It's basically a warped ideology, not much different than being a member of a political party. They have 1,000 excuses why you are fat or poor, and not a single one of those excuses has anything to do with your actions. That's why other countries think we're a joke.[/quote]

I’ve said it a thousand times in various threads on this site…personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.

Some people burn calories faster than others. But it’s always going to be CICO. [b]Anyone who says they have restricted their calories by a significant amount for at least a month and never lost weight is lying[/b]. [/quote]

If you locked someone in a room for a month and gave them a set low calorie diet they would lose weight. Period. No one leaves survivor at the same weight or having gained weight.

Not arguing that there aren't external factors that make it difficult for people to do this in the real world or that metabolisms and hunger don't vary greatly, but just because people can't eat in a deficit doesn't mean that the principle of CICO are false.

[/quote]Not true at all. Suppose I have 2000 calories a day now. And suppose I’m objectively obese. If I cut everything I eat in half, my calories fall from 2000 a day to 1000 a day. If in doing so, my blood glucose is still such that I produce insulin, I’m going to convert that glucose to fat cells. I won’t lose weight. It’s all about blood glucose.[/quote]

NP, but I would be willing to bet any sum of money up to $1M that if you reduced your caloric intake to 1000 calories/day, you would lose a lot of weight.[/quote]

+100

I swear people are looking for any excuse as to why they can’t lose weight. [/quote]

What’s it to you?[/quote]

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