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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Fair point.[twitter]https://twitter.com/bfriedmandc/status/1700295919109820620?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

What does this have to do with antisemitism? Are you assuming that Jewish people sterilize kids and that must be what Elon is on about? To me, it is incredibly odd to make that leap. [/quote]

DP...  it doesn't have anything to do with antisemitism but it does show how far off the deep end Elon Musk is.  If I were on the board of Tesla or his other companies I'd be pushing to have him step down and go in for psychiatric treatment.[/quote]

Like anything else, if you view that tweet in isolation, it looks very odd and paranoid. But if you read the surrounding tweets, he lays out his concerns about recent California legislation requiring that parents affirm a gender transition.

In fact, this is the majority position in the US. It's not even on partisan lines, it's just the mainstream view: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3991685-majority-of-americans-oppose-gender-affirming-care-for-minors-trans-women-participating-in-sports-poll/amp/

This is in no way similar to Kanye's unhinged rants, nor is it antisemitic or bigoted. Lots of parents who love and support their trans kids choose not to use puberty blockers, and it's not bigoted of them.  It's their choice about what's best for their kid's health.

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The unhinged part is where it completely muddles different things and makes wild, reaching comparisons.  The people commenting on the California bill are equating it to forced sterilization and comparing it to a governmental decision such as when the Indian Health Service did non-consentual sterilization of native american women.  The bill is nothing of the kind and it is not a correct analogy.  The bill is about custody hearings for divorced couples with trans children, and whether judges should factor in if one parent supports their child's decision to transition versus the other parent who doesn't.  Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with participation in sports.  [/quote]

It should also be noted that there isn't even a legal definition of what "affirmation" means.  It doesn't automatically assume surgery and sterilization et cetera.[/quote]

I don't know enough about the bill. If it's clear that affirmation can also be openness to the possibility that the condition may be transitory (many people simply stop having feelings of gender dysphoria) or that it may include therapy for gender dysphoria that might probe whether or not the child is truly psychologically better off living as the other gender, the his comment is strange. If it means that if a therapist recommends medical (not psychological) intervention then a parent must comply, then his comment makes sense. Some people do experience sterilization after these treatments, although its not clear how common it is.

In any case, his comments on a CA bill, even if considered outrageous in some camps, don't really veer into unhinged, unstable, etc. Half the country holds right of center views; they can't all be insane. [/quote]

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