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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]hat said the challenge is finding high income students who are absolutely committed to staying the full four years as well as academically willing to put in the effort to satisfy the graduation requirements that are tied to the university ranking.  This is no trivial challenge, finding high income students who are also studious.   [/quote]

That's not a challenge at all. The paper shows there are plenty of kids in the parental income 97-100% range who have high test scores and high GPA (i.e. they are studious). The trope that rich kids are lazy and stupid is simply false.[/quote]

Nobody is implying rich kids are lazy and stupid.

From a university point of view, finding high income and studious is a challenge.  
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Except it isn't.

http://www.studentaidpolicy.com/who-pays-full-sticker-price-for-a-college-education.html

Look at the Ivy League schools - roughly 50% of freshmen pay full price. You will also note that in colleges with a &lt;10% acceptance rate (the most selective) 47% of the freshmen pay full price. There are clearly a lot of high-income, studious kids. And I dare say if these institutions didn't make a point of admitting a certain number of low-income kids just for appearance's sake, those full-pay percentages would be even higher. Maybe even 100%.[/quote]

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Yes, the notion that full pay students are not "super smart and studious" is wrong.  There are plenty of really smart, studious, motivated high income students.  Most have grown up in a place of privilege and have had tutoring and outside help the moment they show any signs of a struggle. They get SAT/ACT tutoring before they take the first real test.  They also have grown up expecting that the natural path after 12th grade is to enter a 4 year university, often times dreaming of their families various alma maters.  
Sure there are rich kids who are not that smart and who coast thru life on the family coattails, but that is not the norm.  
And yes, universities would find it much easier to not go after as many first gen/low income students....it is a lot of work to ensure that those students succeed at college and graduate in 4 years....when the kids have no influence at home that can help them understand what college is about and the kids are truly struggling with how to buy books or ensure they have enough money for food.  [/quote]

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