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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?[/quote]
Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs. [/quote]

Wedding websites are all different.  This is a custom request.  You don't know what she may be asked to do.  
And, that is what this case is about.  You cannot compel a person to create something against their beliefs.  
Just like I would never create something for a follower of Satan.  And, I would be within my rights to refuse that.  [/quote]

You know what the next step is, right? A gay couple being denied the use of a hotel or restaurant for their wedding/reception. "Speech" has to be created for such an event, just like with the web designer.

Or what if an interracial couple wants to use the web designer's services, but the designer's religious beliefs forbid interracial marriage. Is that OK?[/quote]

There is an obvious middle ground here that SCOTUS is staking out:  public accommodation laws must be balanced within the Constitution. Joe’s Diner that serves burgers and fries has no reasonable speech claim, but the customized Cake Baker does.

[b]I hate that this was decided in hypothetical rather than actual facts[/b], but there was evidence that the couple in the Colorado cake case had specifically targeted the baker so they could file a complaint, so I can sorta see why the judges took the case. [/quote]

I agree, but at least in creating their little law school exercise case they stipulated to some facts that limit the scope of this and ability of hotels, etc. to claim this case falls under their free speech rights as well. [/quote]

Why do you think that? Remember Hobby Lobby, a massive corporation with 43k employees is allowed to have religious beliefs. [/quote]

Why do I think what? Hobby Lobby isn't a web designer with speech implications. Hobby Lobby is more like Joes Diner from above. It doesn't have the right to refuse a gay couple entry into their store to buy paint supplies. [/quote]

Joes Dinner and Hobby Lobby have the right to exercise their freedom of speech just like the web designer. They could even have stronger religious views and beliefs than the web designer. Why are you taking their freedom of speech away?

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What speech? [/quote]

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