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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our private college counselor says fun goes to die and U of Chicago. He says it is a miserable environment for most students.[/quote]

If this and previous posts portraying UChicago as a miserable place full of unhappy students are even remotely true, [b]then why does the school have an extremely high freshmen retention rate[/b]?  College kids transfer all the time no one's forcing these kids to stay at a place they intensely dislike.  Even if they're hung up on rankings, they could always transfer to a more or less equally prestigious university.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
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This is easily explained. (i) Very few kids at top colleges transfer in general. (ii) Chicago is on the tricky quarter system, which makes transferring all of your credits extremely difficult and the school year calendar makes the process and timeline more challenging. (iii) UChicago classes are hard, which means your college GPA is likely going to be lower if not much lower than someone who went to a degree mill and coasted to a 4.0 their freshman year. (iv) It is technically ranked in the top 15, right, and it's not exactly easy to transfer to another top 15 college. The top 15, outside of maybe Chicago and Cornell, admit very few transfers. Some don't even really take transfers.[/quote]

So even though the freshmen retention rate is a widely acknowledged and often cited indicator of student satisfaction across universities, it can't be used as a valid indicator for the University of Chicago?  Sure, Jan. [/quote]

Widely acknowledged by whom? I’ve literally never heard a parent or student cite first year retention in real life. It’s internet forum nonsense. How many freshman transfers out total in the top 15 each year? Hundreds total?[/quote]

Well, an empirical study using both a hierarchical multiple regression analysis and a logistic regression analysis revealed the following about undergrad retention rates:

Our major conclusion from these two types of analyses is that satisfaction indicators from the Student Satisfaction Inventory—whether items, gap scores, scales, or global indices of satisfaction— are significant predictors of students’ desire to enroll again, as well as of their actual enrollment the following year—[b]even after taking into consideration students’ demographic characteristics and important features of the institution[/b].

http://learn.ruffalonl.com/rs/395-EOG-977/images/LinkingStudentSatis0809.pdf

But who needs scientific analysis to reach a conclusion when you can instead rely on what you've heard/not heard from other people? [/quote]

You sound strange. Typical UChicago alum or nutty UChicago parent.[/quote]

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