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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My adult kids are doing great and they are the opposite of duds. But I have plenty of friends and family whose kids are duds but their parents aren’t. I’m not sure of the cause of the dud-ness, but I think being spoiled has something to do with it as all the families are UMC or UC. [/quote]

The reason they are all UMC/UC is because you wouldn’t call someone from a lower class family a dud. Lack of ambition, poor career potential, low educational attainment, etc are the norm - those who achieve more stand out as exceptions. “Dud” is only possible when you start with elevated expectations and have somewhere to drop to. It’s a very classist phrase. [/quote]

So interesting! I agree with your analysis. MC + poor kids suffer from a culture of low expectations.. .society has little hope for them. UMC / rich kids are expected to perform well.

OP your post does make me sad. What would you do if one of your " duds" saw your post? I would be devastated to read something like that. I grew up with 8 kids in my family. I think in MC families--kids in large families tend to raise themselves w/o much guiding/ mentoring. With luck and a huge desire to escape by Midwest city, I have achieved great success. Some who stayed there have failed to find success. I would hate to call them duds. Maybe you can help them get out of their funk? It is never too late, I hope![/quote]

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