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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts. 
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The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort. [/quote]

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid.  Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times.  So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it.  Doubt that is the case. [/quote]
For young males after the second dose, that is not the case. They face a higher risk after the second dose than they do from covid itself.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/
"Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18])."[/quote]

That is some world class cherry picking there.
The entire conclusion:  Overall, t[b]he risk of myocarditis is greater after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after COVID-19 vaccination and remains modest after sequential doses including a booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine.[/b] However, the risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Yes--if you are a young man, you are slightly more likely then women to get it after a second dose, but NOT more likely to get it then if you have had covid.

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You are misreading the sentence. This sentence compares the risk of young men after the second booster with the risk of young men after covid. They find the risk is higher for the former. The sentence is not comparing men and women. Look at Table 4 to see the data. 
[b]"In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test".[/b][/quote]

NP here. Your sentence is about Moderna vaccine (mRNA-1273)

Another important point: In this study [b]0.007% of people[/b] (13 y/o+, male and female) [b]experienced an event of myocarditis [/b]within 28 days of (any) vax. Of that number, [b]"associations" [/b]were stronger in males under 40, in particular after the second dose of Moderna vaccine (mRNA-1273.)

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