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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UCAS system is a better way IMO. And yes, they have elite schools too and a lot of kids with hopes pinned to them.

I'm not sure why private colleges that take federal money (ie 95%) don't have a US rate and a non-USA rate.[/quote]

The US would have to fund higher education a lot more to have the kind of say you want.  Yes, professors are funded by federal grants, but the benefits of those grants for society and private business in terms of both R&D, improved policy, and workforce training are estimated to be an easy 10fold return in the relative short-term and far more in the long-term.  Yes, some students are funded by loans, but it would be easier and cheaper for colleges to say you can't pay, you can't come and just teach the UMC/wealthy.  The benefits you are pointing to benefit society more than they do the colleges/universities so the government doesn't have a lot of bargaining power with colleges/universities.[/quote]

Not really. If federal funds were tied to tuition, schools would find a way to cut fat to bring down tuition and keep federal money [/quote]

A little bit maybe, but I think they would just accept fewer poor students.  Especially selective private schools which are the ones relevant to this thread (3% admission race).[/quote]

No R1 university is giving up federal research grants [/quote]

The point of this thread isn't tuition costs, it's low admission rates.  If the feds were to tie receiving federal research grants to tuition, sure the schools would cut tuition--but they could also cut institutional aid to anyone who can't afford the lower tuition rates.  They could decide that the teaching side of their schools is less worth it and cap admissions making the admission rates even tougher. (And if feds made it too draconian, private universities could just switch to venture capital/private donors/use of endowments and skip the feds altogether and have a lot laxer policies around profiting from research, not sharing data openly, more patenting--they could switch the model quite a bit if the US continued to make a lot of demands on universities without concomitant support).[/quote]

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