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Yes, that's why I was questioning the PP, I know the dropping out of PhD route is funded, and don't know why he didn't pursue that.  He specifically applied to masters programs.  He has done research for the past year, completed undergrad in '22.  Perfect grades and scores.  Also don't know why he didn't at least apply to jobs, has some notion the work he wants requires a masters at minimum, but being office broken might be the bigger hurdle.[/quote]

He would have needed to have substantive research as an undergrad [i]prior [/i][b]to applying for a PhD to be accepted into a funded program straight out of undergrad. Meaning he would've needed to have that under his belt by the end of his junior year.  He'd be competing with others who've already been published.   While there are some exceptions, this is true for most STEM PhDs.

From your description, it sounds like he started research over this past year.  While that would prepare him for a future PhD application, he may not have had enough meaningful research as an undergrad to apply. Top grades and scores will not get you into a PhD program.  Those are nice but meaningful research and recommendations from professors that can attest to your research skills are essential to get an offer in STEM fields.  It might be that your friend's son is working on that part now---he probably knew all this when he applied and was wise to pursue the masters instead.[/quote]

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