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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What are these remote jobs paying $90k+ year that are relaxed enough to allow for a second job, and how do I find one?[/quote] I'm a PM and could easily do 2 or 3 The BAs and coders on my team could easily do multiple jobs Most jobs are 20 hours of actual work max.[/quote] I do project work so my roadmaps, epics what ever you call them are quarterly or goals or milestones. I literally could not work for two months and as long as I met my KPIs I am set. I easily could do 5 jobs if they all were like this job. My one coworker goes to her beach house all of July and august and takes off Thanksgiving to New years each year and no one on noticed she catches up at other times. I do less than her. Last year I ghosted 👻 April to November. I worked like 5 hours a week. Tops If me or her got promoted I get tips a 20-30k boost and have to work 40-45 hours. Easier not to do it and just get a second easy gig [/quote] This is a snow job on the people paying you. This is why it irritates me when people think PMs don’t need to understand technical work. If your roadmap is slow rolling, they should know they’re paying you for value that’s not worth what they’re paying you. I have taken over projects in the past and exposed this to the sponsors but, unfortunately, it is really very common.[/quote] Also at a large company I literally just ask other folks via slack to help all the time. Or maybe already know how do it and just wait. You are assuming bosses care. My staff member I knew had a second job but did not put him as I had a second job. Companies only need to track unemployment claims, cobra coverage requests, insurance usage, calendar patterns they don’t care. My “catch up” “ooo” “status update” or “focus time” reoccurring meetings are first clue. My one staff went to gym three days a week in morning, picked kids up at school five days a week and cut off work at certain time. We were remote. She slipped when she mention her pelatron machine, kids in day care all day and then she does not drive much. I did not care but obvious those were meetings her other job. I would do my meetings at same time. I am sure she knew about me. I think 80 percent of us had two to three jobs. Key indicator fully remote and so so pay no questions asked take job. Why does someone making 200k take a 160k remote job? Cause they ain’t quitting current job It is why Janie Dimon is on war path and Capital one on May 1 wants people back in the office. The scan is ending Massive layoffs in IT last nine months but unemployment stayed the same. Think about that. Those Twitter and Google folks were doing nothing all day [/quote] Sorry but there is nothing you could say that would convince me that this is unethical. It’s not unethical to have multiple jobs and be paid in story points. It is though if you’re deliberately making a roadmap knowing you’re only giving 20 hours worth of work to someone who doesn’t know better. Trust me, if they understood, they’d care. At some point if someone tells them they’ll care. CS is a big major now. Lots of people are going to get that degree. When the market becomes over saturated this won’t fly so much. As someone who understands development and program management, with degrees and certifications in both, I know what you’re doing and I understand why you’re doing it. It’s just not true that it’s everyone and it’s not true it’s never found out. [/quote]
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